Burn, Witch, Burn!: America Rages Against Islam

by Keith Johnson

Islamophobia is sweeping the nation—and it couldn’t have come at a better time.  Just when the American people were starting to become distracted with trivial issues like the potential stock market crash, the re-branding of the war in Iraq, and the ongoing environmental disaster in the Gulf—along comes a crisis of Biblical proportions, that threatens to destroy the moral fiber of America itself, and deliver its Christian population into the diabolical hands of an Islamic dictatorship ruled under the precepts of Sharia law.

        Oh, foolish man.  What can you not be made to believe?
~Adam Weishaupt~

By now, it should be quite obvious that the hysteria centered on the proposed construction of an Islamic cultural center—a full two blocks from Ground Zero—is nothing more than an engineered distraction, designed to take the focus away from serious geopolitical and domestic issues as we head into the November elections.

Late last year, we watched in horror as the Tea Party movement was infiltrated by certain personalities from the GOP establishment.  Glenn Beck, Dick Armey, Rick Perry, Sarah Palin, and others of that same ilk—all dressed down to mingle with working class folks— and let them know that the Republican party shares their pain.  Before these clowns got involved, the focus of the Tea Party was on big government, compulsory health insurance and Wall Street bailouts.  But over a period of time—as these Johnny-Come-Latelies sunk their fingers deeper into the pie—they used their influence to diffuse the ire against Wall Street and redirect those energies to support the GOP war agenda. 

Now we are starting to see large swaths of Tea Party factions taking up the war banner at their events—complete with metrosexual cowboys singing war anthems in the background—and stirring up racial tensions the likes of which we have not witnessed since before the civil rights movement of the 1960’s. 

No longer is Wall Street feeling the hot pangs of public anger breathing down their necks.  These terrorists have been left to their own devices, with free reign to continue their raping and pillaging of the American dream.  Now, cab drivers wearing turbans have more to fear than the bankster gangster riding in their back seats.

From New York City to Southern California, large groups of paranoid warmongers gather outside Islamic places of worship to parrot the lies fed to them by the mainstream media.  Much of their ammunition comes straight out of a likely source:  FOX News.

On August 16, disgraced former congressman Newt Gingrich made an appearance on the morning program, FOX and Friends, and said, “Nazis don’t have the right to put up a sign next to the Holocaust museum in Washington. We would never accept the Japanese putting up a site next to Pearl Harbor. There’s no reason for us to accept a mosque next to the World Trade Center.”  Is that right?  Well, according to that line of thinking, and assuming that America is a Christian nation (like so many people claim it to be), would it not be just as wrong for us to expect the Japanese to accept a Christian church in Hiroshima or for the Germans to accept one in Dresden?  You, Mr. Gingrich, may think that these are entirely different circumstances.   But I’d waged that there are thousands of Germans and Japanese who would beg to differ.

Later that week, on the same program, host Brian Kilmeade asserted his fear that the Islamic Cultural Center in New York City would be the future site of a new “Hamburg Cell.”  In case you didn’t know, the “Hamburg Cell” was where three alleged hijackers reportedly cooked up the 911 plot.  Two of the three men were tried in Germany, but the cases were dropped when the U.S. failed to provide any incriminating evidence that linked them to the attacks. 

Other FOX propagandists, like Dick Morris, claim that the center will be used to ‘train and recruit’ future terrorists.  “Shariah law mandates jihad” blurted Morris. “And it mandates terrorism and suicide bombing. So this is really a juridical center that is being established to study and promote and train and recruit Shariah law advocates, which will become terrorists. … We’re establishing literally a command center for terrorism right at the 9/11 site.”  This kind of B.S. brings to mind that famous Arte Johnson line from ‘Rowan and Martin’s Laugh-In’:  “Very interesting…but stupid!”

Recent evidence suggests just the opposite of Morris’ line of thinking.  According to a recent New York Times article, “A two-year study by a group of academics on American Muslims and terrorism concluded that contemporary mosques are actually a deterrent to the spread of militant Islam and terrorism. The study was conducted by professors with Duke’s Sanford School of Public Policy and the University of North Carolina. It disclosed that many mosque leaders had put significant effort into countering extremism by building youth programs, sponsoring antiviolence forums and scrutinizing teachers and texts.”

But this won’t stop the likes of Gingrich, Kilmeade and Morris from spreading their message of intolerance.  They have an agenda, and that agenda is to stir up a deep-seated hatred against the Muslim community in order to rally support for a war on Iran.  And they’ve been very effective.  Their rhetoric is being picked up and repeated by Islamophobes all across the nation.  For them, it’s all about the fear of Shariah law, disrespect to 911 victims, and the paranoid assumption that all Mosques are staging grounds for future terrorist attacks. 

In Murfreesboro, Tennessee—opponents of a proposed Mosque spray-painted the words “Not Welcome” on a sign that marked the construction site, and later tore it to shreds.  They also brought dogs to intimidate Muslims as they worshipped in the modest office space they’ve been using as a prayer room.  One man—sounding a lot like Newt Gingrich—told a CNN reporter that “In Islam, a mosque means ‘We have conquered this country,'” And where are they? They’re in the center of Tennessee. They’re going to say, ‘We have conquered Tennessee.'”  Oh, boy!  First Tennessee…then the world!

In Temecula, California—plans by the Islamic community to build a mosque on a four-acre parcel of land has sparked a similar protest.  Pastor Bill Rench, of  Temecula Calvary Baptist Church, echoed Kilmeade and Morris when he stated, “There is a concern with all the rumors you hear about sleeper cells and all that. Are we supposed to be complacent just because these people say it’s a religion of peace? Many others have said the same thing.”  Yes, Pastor Rench, many others have said the same thing.  I think you would be hard pressed to find a religion which has not been used by some greedy tyrant as a pretext to wage war…including Christianity.

A website for a group calling itself ‘We the People—Citizens in Action’ called on their members to attend a rally in Temecula and to “bring your Bibles, flags, signs, dogs and singing voice.”  At the event, demonstrators held up signs that read ‘No Sharia Law’ and ‘Muslims Danced For Joy on 9/11.’ Apparently they haven’t learned that the “so-called” dancing Palestinians they’re referring to were actually paid to perform in front of the camera with candy and cakes supplied to them by the Israel Ministry of Defense.  The whole thing was staged. 

What was not staged were the five dancing Israelis arrested on 9/11, who were reported to police after being seen cheering and ‘high-fiving’ as they watched the towers come down.  They’d been shooting video of the disaster from a short distance away.  They were later released by police and deported back to Israel, where three of them admitted on Israeli TV that they were in New York City that day to “document the event.” 

In Bridgeport, Connecticut—a dozen “so-called” Christian demonstrators angrily screamed, “Islam is a lie” and “Jesus hates Muslims” at worshippers of a local Mosque.  One demonstrator even confronted a group of children and called them “murderers.”  Have these people even read the scriptures?  Where can Jesus be found to say that he hates Muslims?  Muslims weren’t even around during the time Christ walked the Earth.  Islam began almost six hundred years after the death of Christ.  There is not even one biblical passage that eludes to Islam or mosques or Muslims.  

We haven’t seen this level of ignorance and superstition since the Salem Witch Trials of the 1600’s.  There are many parallels that be can drawn from that time and now. During that era of American history, the colonies suffered from severe enviromental and economic troubles.  Severe weather changes resulted in crop failures which devastated livestock and the ability for families to put food on the table.  What made matters worse was the influential and fervently religious Puritans, who were very active politically, and attributed all adversity to the wrath of God.  The economic woes, coupled by a belief that all bad things are a result of supernatural punishment for unrepentant sin, fostered a climate of suspicion that sent many in search of the source to their problems.  Someone had to take the blame and be held to answer for all the troubles they inflicted upon everyone else.  While the fanatically religious clung to their superstitions in pursuit of justice, many others took advantage of the hysteria and used it as an opportunity to eliminate bitter rivals and steal coveted and valuable pieces of property.

What we don’t understand, we fear.  What we fear, we judge as evil.  What we judge as evil, we attempt to control.  And what we cannot control…we attack.

We see the same thing happening today.  As we fall deeper into our own economic crisis—aggravated by enviromental disasters and poor money policies—the ignorant masses are susceptible to clinging to a simple explanation for their troubles.  In this case, it is Islam.  They are the modern day witches, whose behavior is foreign and therefore a threat that must be exterminated.  Our modern day equivelent to the Puritans are those fervently religious and politically active Judeo-Christians who cling to a politicised perversion of Biblical scriptures.  They have been led to believe that allegiance to the state of Israel is critical to their salvation.  If Islam is a threat to Israel, then Islam is the enemy that must be defeated.  Then, of course, there are those who are simply taking advantage of the hysteria.  These are our politicians, who will send our children to die in these most unholy of wars, and clean up whatever spoils those wars have wrought.

Contrary to popular perception, none of the victims of the Salem Witch Trials were burned at the stake.  However, the victims of these latest witchhunts have not had it so easy.  Entire villages have burned to the ground in Afghanistan, white phosphorus has been dropped on Palestinian children in Gaza, and talks of a strike on Iran may very well place a mushroom cloud over Tehran in the not so distant future. 

Here at home, violence has already begun to show its ugly face.  In New York City, a Muslim cab driver’s throat was aledgedly slashed by an irate Islamophobe, and elsewhere, several prayer rugs were urinated upon by an angry drunk shouting racial slurs.  Is this the beginning of even greater violence that we should expect to witness as the rage against Islam escalates out of control?

This frightening trend is indeed a crisis—but to both Democrat and Republican candidates seeking office in November—this is a god send.  For the Republicans, the mosque controversey is a good prop, like the paper mache’ mask that the “Wizard of Oz” lit on fire and waved around to scare Dorothy into taking on the Wicked Witch of the West.  For the Democrats, bringing attention to the frenzied hysteria of the reactionary right provides a good opportunity to lure back disgruntled dissenters, who have been suffering a bit of buyers remorse since Obama took office.

It’s a sad thing to watch.  Just when the time was ripe for the people of this nation to unite in opposition to the established government, we are now beginning to see them part ways… and herded back into their respective corners. 


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  1. Well said Keith. Divide and conquer. Hmmm, divided and conquered. Yeah, maybe that last one. Seems the “tea party” is just another bitter disappointment. America’s rulers fear a “united people” and will take whatever means are necessary to insure that does NOT happen. How freaking sad. You know, for ‘we nobody little people’ that pay the taxes.
    Ummm, would you happen to know what a “justin bieber” might be? Distraction, thy target is the American people.

  2. Frightening. How people’s minds can be bent at the will of the media manipulators.

    Could it be that ALL of the protestors are either Zionists or Zionists allies?

    • my thoughts exactly. look who is funding these nitwits and low and behold, it is the likud zionistas of israel. they are trying to gin up hatred for muslims in advance of bombing iran and lebanon. just like they ginned up hatred for the germans during wwI. these people never change. i guess because they get away with it time and time again. the moronic masses never figure it out. a sucker born every minute and two to take them.

      • Right on,
        I am not a fan of the mosque being built in this location but,,,
        it has come at a time that fits in the israeli timetable. Getting the masses against Muslims before a possible bombing of Iran.
        Everything in the middle east is an illusion. Nothing is the way it seems and Israel is the best at DECEPTION. The Mossads way to fight a war is thru deception and false flag operations.
        For a politician to come out against Israel is political suicide, so they all keep their heads in the sand.
        A new book just came out on the attack of the USS Liberty by Phil Tourney.(What I saw tht day” He was a sailor on the Liberty that day in 1967 when Israel attacked and killed 34 wounded 171 American sailors.
        Israels excuse, “we made a mistake”
        It was so obvious they knew it was an American ship.
        This attack was swept under the carpet like all of Israels wrongdoings.
        America wake up ! Please

  3. On August 16, disgraced former congressman Newt Gingrich made an appearance on the morning program, FOX and Friends, and said, “Nazis don’t have the right to put up a sign next to the Holocaust museum in Washington. We would never accept the Japanese putting up a site next to Pearl Harbor. There’s no reason for us to accept a mosque next to the World Trade Center.”

    I think a Honda dealership would be acceptable.

  4. keith, i can’t disagree with you more. (though i won’t say which, i am actually in this photo) how can this be divisive when over 70% polled oppose this mosque, and i would venture to guess that ‘most’ of the less than 30% wouldn’t identify themselves with any movement against the ‘established’ government anyway.

    islam is much more than a ‘religion’ it is an expansionary political order whose aim is to take over the world the subjugate anyone who doesn’t go along with it. qur’an gives 3 options to non-muslims…convert, fight, or pay jizya. jizya is tax you pay islamic state for protection so long as you acknowledge islam to be superior.

    there is NO freedom of speech in Islam, so how could anyone endorse its expansion?
    there is NO freedom of press in Islam, so how could anyone endorse its expansion?
    and there is definately NO freedom of religion in Islam, so how could anyone endorse its expansion?

    i dont watch any fox news, (their second largest ownership stake belongs to saudi prince who has given money to imam rauf before) nor am i brainwashed by any media outlet. all i come to understand, i have through islam’s own texts. islam commands its true followers to be at war with you whether you want to be at war with them or not. sucks, but thats the way its been for 1400 years.

    • sounds like you are talking about Israel chump!! another classic israel-firtster. you are a classic zionist xenophobe. You should move you nasty ass over to your zionist homeland and you would be right at home with your fascist scumbag brothers bombing innocent woman and children with white phosphorous and DU. get off your high horse you elitist jew cocksucker! israel is the real enemy of the world and everyone knows it but you I guess, because you are blinded by your “faith”. 9-11 was carried by israeli mossad and the CIA. buildings don’t collapse do to a jet fuel fire, sorry. if you believe they do, then i have a bridge to sell you.

      • isreal-firster?? elitist jew cocksucker?? fascist brothers??

        i didn’t even mention isreal or zionists in my original post. you have no clue what my position on isreal is.

        i only was commenting on islam. wow. you delegitimize your point when you go off on tangents like that. why dont we debate what is really in the quran and hadith if im so wrong..

    • hey guys and girls!!
      if you all are christians you would have followed what Christ said about loving your enemies.
      i for one welcome the mosques TWO BLOCKS from ground zero and i will go to the muslims and stand with them while sharing the glorious message of JESUS CHRIST about HIS coming kingdomm AND the fact that he died for their sins as well as ours!!!
      i am sure that JESUS CHRIST would not be welcome in any of your churches these days.

      • Neither Christianity nor the Constitution are suicide pacts. Both call for resistance to evil. But the manner in which how one opposes evil does matter. Neither calls for pacifism.

        Evidently dantheman and Keith haven’t a clue as to the consequences of being Chamberlains or even Quislings. I can only surmise that Taqiyya and Dimmitude are acceptable practices to them.

        However, if we assume that Keith believes that 9/11 was a Bush/Cheney black-ops false flag operation, then we can assume that he somehow believes that the real funding of the Mosque near Ground Zero is also being financed by the same “cabal” as a distraction. If we ignore the fact that Islam declared war on America from near its beginning and has resorted to violence from time to time against it then we can understand how Keith believes everything is a false flag operation by some international cabal. That would make sense, right Keith?

        But does opposing the Mosque also mean ignoring other pressing issues Keith? I think not. And what are those other issues objectives? Are they not for the final collapse of what once was an American system of a democratic Republic under the rule of Constitutional Law and a true free market economy? Does socialism or Islam offer such? Is not Islam socialist in nature? Maybe that’s why Leftists defend Islam so much.

      • im a catholic….not an ‘evil zionist’

        when Jesus spoke of loving your enemies, I interpret it as not to take revenge for petty things. dont hate those whom you compete with whether it be in business or personal life. generally, treat everyone as you’d want to be treated.

        that does not mean to be a pushover and submit to foreign gods.

      • vigilo procinctu, evidently you’ve “misread” the Gospels as well as the wrong history books. I think the “experts” on this forum believe it says Christians should be punching bags and doormats and should retire from the public square. You know, separation of church and state and all that. Also, doesn’t the New Testament say ” judge not lest you be judged?” And please, don’t read the rest of the sentence; that’d be unfair. ;-) After all, everything is relative and there are no moral absolutes, right. And I’m sure they believe that Islam is misunderstood and is peaceful and tolerant.

        By the way, while I disagree with dantheman11727 on his stand on the Mosque being built, I appreciate his stand on his willingness to share the Gospel message. That’s love.

    • Absolute nonsense. Muslims are instructed to fight only those who wage war against them. Nowhere in its teaching does it say the opposite. Christians and Jews have lived alongside muslims for over a thousand years. Seems to me you are spreading zionist propaganda verbatim.

      • you are either lying or ignorant. many of the medinian surahs are about conquest and how inferior non-muslims are. you are familiar with the quran and hadith, right?

        jews and christians lived alongside muslims until muslims had the power to take them over. uh, you’ve read at-taubah, right?

        again with the zionist thing?? ugh

    • Sounds like your describing judaism.

      • judaism wasn’t founded by some guy who was a rapist, murderer, war-monger, theif, polygamist, liar who married a 6-year old girl!!

        see quran and hadith.

  5. It looks like America is suffering from amnesia.
    They need a little reminding in what they did to an innocent Muslim nation.


    • exactly. these zionazis never quit. they think we have forgotten what has been done and is being done to innocent human beings in the middle east at the behest of the jews in israel.

    • amnesia? what does that video prove?

      put aside the emotions of agreeing or disagreeing with the operations in middle east..

      how many of the photos of destruction or wailing were the result of muslims blowing up (striving hard against) other muslims for being hypocrites…. as was “revealed” to mohammed..

      and the ones with the troops, you have no idea the dialogue or circumstances….. your video….pointless.

    • vigilo procinctu makes an excellent point. Was Iraq an innocent Muslim nation? How many people did Saddam murder? Wasn’t it over 1 million Iranians? How many did he use WMDs on in his own country, particularly the Kurds? How many times did he defy international efforts to check on his alleged WMD programs? How many times did he trumpet his plans for a Pan Arab Nation that would use its resources to obtain WMDs to crush Israel and the US? How many innocent countries did he attack? How many did he plan to attack?

      The video shows a war zone, the result of Hussein’s blustering and defiance, and of course there were civilian casualties and suffering. War is hell. It also shows the opulence of its leaders as opposed to the poverty of many of its citizens but it doesn’t show the torture chambers of Saddam and his sons. It shows that even in a sandy dust bowl there is beauty and ingenuity by its people. It also shows a wrecked ship caused by Muslim terrorists and a US medical helicopter shot down by Muslims, no doubt because it had a cross, a red cross, on it.

      But does the video show any war crimes by US military? If any of the detentions by US soldiers shown were illegal you should annotate that to illustrate your point. Were any Mosques destroyed by Americans that didn’t habor terrorists and their military supplies? How many Mosques, including the one with the golden dome, were destroyed by fellow Muslims just because of their being of what we think of as a different denomination?

      The reminder Americans should be givien is that Islam declared war on the US in the late 1700. It was Islamic terrorism that led to a forgotten war in the Philippines. It was Islamic occupation of Europe that led to WWI. It was Islamic cooperation with Hitler and their support of the Final Solution.

      Also it should be remembered it was British and American technology and efforts that gave Iraq and other Muslim nations their access to vast wealth, wealth often limited to a few in those countries or used for war.

      Lest we forget, the challenge the West now faces is a struggle between the inherent human rights of equality and liberty versus Islamic supremacism. It seems much of Europe is on a path to Dhimmitude if not Islamic assimilation. If we Americans cherish the values of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution we must be ready to resist Islamic supremacism just as we did communism. The challenge and consequences are just as great. So far our leaders don’t seem to be cognizant of the danger or they’re part of an effort to defeat what little is left of a democratic Republic under the rule of constitutional law with freedom for individuals, including freedom of religion.

      Then of course there’s the likes of JFKcia with his hatred of Jews and who probably would’ve favored the Nazi’s Final Solution. So I would ask you tangel476, what makes a Muslim nation innocent? Is it the concept of Jihad, Islamic supremacism, or Mar al-Harb or is it Taqiyya?

      • B/C Iraqis are people like us. How can their deaths be worth less than ours?

      • Your sense of values, the worth of deaths, is most telling. Did I claim their lives are worth less than ours? But obviously you seem to believe their deaths are more tragic than ours even when it’s a result of their fanatical adherence to their belief in Islamic supremacism. I guess that explains why you’re either unable or afraid to answer my questions.

  6. I am so completely disgusted and appalled at these morons. I believe the True question is ….. who is giving these cowards the “permission” to do this. These are the exact same people who would be wearing KLAN robes, if they were “permitted” and that is the whole point. These cowards never act like this unless they have “approval”, otherwise they slink off to sulk.

    • Agreed. Also, did they make sure that no christian related centres were built around Oklahoma after the supposed Timothy McVeigh act of terrorism?

      • and what texts from the Bible did timothy mcveigh use to justify his actions??….. i must have missed it.

      • Elsa, I suppose you missed the fact that McVeigh said that his religion was science. He was an agnostic. Furthermore there was a third party to the OKC bombing identified as a Middle Eastern man, most likely a Muslim.

        But I realize that liberals need to believe that the OKC terrorist bombing was due to a right wing conspiracy.

  7. I’m an Islamaphobe, and a Christianaphobe. Okay, I’m just a religiophobe. I’d like an immediate prohibition on building any new centers of god dogma, and I think all those currently in existence ought to be given away via lottery to all those that have been substantially harmed by Imams and priests.

    • I can’t think of any cases of abuse at the hands of Imams in the United States. Quite the contrary. recently, a mosque in Detroit was raided by the FBI and the Imam was shot dead while handcuffed. The mosques in America do more good than harm, if any harm at all.

      Look to the example of the UMMA Clinic in Los Angeles made up of volunteer Muslim doctors, who give free visits, prescriptions and medications to people without insurance.

      It is said that people fear what they don’t understand, which is why you may be Theophobic.

    • What about the millions harmed by atheists?

      • “What about the millions harmed by Atheists?”

        If you’re talking about the Commies–they were’nt atheists–they were as ‘True of Believers’ as they come, ‘hero worship’ Marx/Lenin.

        Smae mind set, different code.


  8. Excellent post. We watched Psywar last night and it’s right on target:


  9. Very good anaolgy. Thank you. Keep up the good work.

    “only a fool believes there are two parties in Washington DC.” Jonathan Turley

  10. That’s is, scumbags, spasm in your hate.

    Let the world revel in the exposure of your demented evil.

    Now the world sees the true ugliness.

    Go wild in the streets, you filth. Let nothing restrain your berserk fury, you trash.

  11. Nice comment from Whatreallyhappened.com

    Look carefully at the protest sign, which reads “You can build a mosque at Ground Zero when we can build a synagogue in Mecca.” Notice the arrogant presumption that the United States is a Jewish nation!!!

    • more like new york is a jewish city, which is not far from being true.

    • JJ, might not the presumption be that the person holding the sign was Jewish? By the way, no non-muslim place of worship is allowed in all of Saudi Arabia and access to both Mecca and Medina are prohibited to non-muslims. That seems to be OK with leftists but Israel as a Jewish nation, what a travesty!

  12. Interesting the warmongering wench holding the sign takes it for granted(still true though)that the US is under Jewish rule. We already know DC is occupied territory.

    • Robertsgt40, may I ask, are you saying the woman is a country girl, presumably uneducated; or a strumpet, a promiscuous woman, the more common use of the word, who advocates war? If the latter, how do you arrive at such a conclusion?

  13. These people should read Albert Pike’ s “Morals & Dogma”; it’s for free here:

  14. Yes…intersting comments fom Vigile, who is so affraid of Sharia when the US is already occupied and ruled by the Talmudic laws of the Zionist conqueror of planet Earth.

    It is well noted that this is Hegelian divide and conquer, and these morons spewing and dancing their voodoo dance at the “9/11 site” that isn’t, are simply automatons spouting prefab Newspeak.

    Yes, Weishaupt would be delighted. Templor sigh.


  15. Anyone who knows anything about Islam will know that Sharia can NOT be imposed on non muslims. Christians and Jews live peacefully among muslims in many countries and have their own places of worship. They lived together in Palestine until the zionists decided that the land was theirs. How many muslim countries have attacked the west compared with the number destroyed by zionist US policy. Anyone who takes a little time to investigate what’s really happening in the world would discover the delusions we are living under.

  16. …when we can build a SYNAGOGUE in Mecca? Hmmmm…. was the picture taken in Israel? I thought the United States of Slaves was a CHRISTIAN nation.

    • X, when was the USA a Christian theocracy (some of the States came close)? And isn’t Saudi Arabia a theocracy?

      By the way, didn’t Pres. Obama say that we don’t consider ourselves a Christian nation and hasn’t he also said we’re that one of the largest Muslim countries in the world?

      Also, couldn’t the person holding the sign be Jewish? In this land of “slaves” aren’t we allowed to publicly declare our religion?

  17. I am a non-believer who admires Islam. They have a very strict philosophy and reinforce it constantly by getting down on their knees, facing Mecca and praying to their god Allah. They wish to be controlled by Islamic law and don’t understand why Amerikan infidels invade their countries and force strange customs on them. They don’t want their sisters, daughters, or wives to walk around half naked with faces painted while smoking and drinking alcohol. Their laws about stealing are very strict as well. I don’t see anything admirable about Christians or Jews. If ground zero is such a big thing, how about some justice for all the first responders who are dying as we type.

  18. Alright Keith, I’m with you on the media driven diversion tactics (Joe Public at large are suckers for a good hate target) but building an Islamic anything at or near ground zero does in fact show a lack of sensitivity by the Muslims behind this project. Yes, this subject has been high-jacked and exploited by the usual suspects, but the truth here is simple. The building of this mosque at this geographic location does in fact lack compassion on the part of the projects originators and we should not loose sight of this out of respect for the families of the fallen.
    Jim G
    WB, Mich

    • Jim G,
      You assume that the officail conspiracy theory is true. It is not true, in fact it is one of the most absurd loads of BS to ever be laid on the Amerikan psyche.

      False assumptions lead directly to false conclusions.

    • I fully agree with you mate.

  19. Who is the real, real threat to religious freedom in this country. In many Mosque protests I notice Jews and the flag of the racist, parasitic, apartheid, fascist, thieving country Israel.

    Israel is one of the most totalitarian nations on this earth. Ask the Christians and Muslims. NO – I am a born again Christian.

    The hate crimes legislation which is now criminalizing the speech and thought process – AIPAC was behind that one also.

    Here the jackboots of the little brownshirts?
    You should.

    It is the Zionist Murder Machine and many others behind it.

    The only people arrested in connection with 9-11 were in reality Mossad Agents. The FBI did not seem to have one shred of evidence against the dead boogy man Osama.

    Much of the in reality brought to you from the biggest fascist (er-democracy) in the Middle East – Israel.

    Congress shall make no law, no law it meant even for the one’s you don’t approve of.

    This is not “loving thy neighbor” to say the least.

    Jesus would not approve.
    Love respects free will. It is polite.

    How many of my corrupt (er-Christian) brothers and sisters are at these damn things?

    I don’t think you get the point of the message.

    And so the lying game goes

    There will literally be hell to pay
    There is zero other option

    History Repeats
    And the parade of useful idiots continues.
    Solomon was right; There is nothing new under the sun

    Time is on my side – This will stop and we all know what I’m talking about.

    You had better stop – I mean stop
    Think long and hard for a damn change.

    Congress shall make no law – none zero.

    Anything else is illegal under the law you swore to uphold.


    Fascism Rising

  20. Just a few words. Is there proof that Muslims perpetrated the attacks of 9/11? Please cite.

    • Dube, what would you accept as reasonable proof or even reasonable suspicion of who either perpetrated or carried out the attacks of 9/11. This is a sincere question.

      • What proof if any would you offer Recce1?

        This is NOT a sencere question because I know there can be no proof–because I’ve seen enough proof that it was an inside job by western intel.

        Anyone who believes the official story is an idiot


      • hybridrogue1, I was asking Dube a question. Are you Dube or do you presume to write for him or her? However your answer, “I know there can be no proof–because I’ve seen enough proof …” is nonsensical. And your display of elitist hubris, you know I wasn’t asking a sincere question because you’ve already determined the answer, is astounding. I really doubt your sanity.

      • “However your answer, “I know there can be no proof–because I’ve seen enough proof …” is nonsensical.”–recce

        You leave off:
        **–because I’ve seen enough proof that it was an inside job by western intel.**

        Which means your assertion that it is “nonsensical” is the result of you editing* my statement to benefit a spurious charge. Which means you are openly dishonest, which is something anyone following the conversation can see with their own eyes.

        As far as someone such as yourself doubting my sanity, Lol the tenor keeps getting more ludicrous.

        I have made it clear before and I will make it clear again, you are a preposterous jejune mountebank, a flamboyant charlatan, with no grounding in logic or reason; just posturing as an adult. This is not calling you names, this is a description of the dialog you have posited here for all the world to see.

        That you are too dim to be embarrassed is more than obvious. I have dealt with lightweights such as yourself for a long time. If you have a trainer, perhaps you should seek some advice, because whether you recognize it or not you are proving yourself to be quite the jackass.


  21. Was it Hitler, or the German people, that were to blame for atrocities of the Nazi Party? Hitler could not have succeeded without the support, or silence, of the German people. The muslim community seems largely silent about Islamic fundamentalists. Why? Are they against the oppression of women, and honor killings? Are they against the killing of gay people? If they are silent, I would conclude that they are quietly in favor of both. Perhaps they are just intimidated by the extremists in their midst. But how many muslims, living in America for years, have we discovered linked to terrorist cells? Too many for my liking. Their own families claim they had no idea of the double lives in their midst. How many of these trojan horses are living in our communities? We have a right to know, because American lives may hang in the balance. It is up to muslims to address these nagging questions frankly, or accept that they will continue to be viewed with suspicion.

    • You got it right on

      • Gillete, There is no need for Muslims to address any if these issues. To do so would be an admission of guilt. As we are innocent of all that you mention and claim, the onus is on YOU to provide evidence of 9-11 guilt, sleeper cells, trojan horse, honour killings etc.

        And yes … you really have a right to know! the truth that is! If you really have it in your heart to understand Islam, then go to the direct source and read the Holy Qu’ran. Find out what true Muslims genuinely believe. Not this “Sleeper Cell” paranoia nonsense. Salaam Alaikum (Peace be with you)

    • Gillete, There is no need for Muslims to address any if these issues. To do so would be an admission of guilt. As we are innocent of all that you mention and claim, the onus is on YOU to provide evidence of 9-11 guilt, sleeper cells, trojan horse, honour killings etc.

      And yes … you really have a right to know! the truth that is! If you really have it in your heart to understand Islam, then go to the direct source and read the Holy Qu’ran. Find out what true Muslims genuinely believe. Not this “Sleeper Cell” paranoia nonsense. Salaam Alaikum (Peace be with you)

    • If you keep reading the MSM of course they’re ‘silent’.

    • I must say I trust the families who had known their sons and daughters all their lives more than I would trust the upholders of law (FBI, CIA, NSA) in the USA. Just because they wear a badge do not make them trustworthy. I hope americans will wake up from their deep sleep.

  22. What is most interesting is the very people who are opposed to the Mosque in Manhatten are the very people that applauded the invasion of Iraq in order to teach Iraqis and Muslims about Freedoms.

    • True, millions of Iraqi and Afghani souls have been freed from their bodies.

  23. Jews did 911 and all world wars and depressions.
    Moses was a rapist and murderer of little girls. See Numbers Chapter 31. The Talmud advocates child rape.
    Mohammed was also a child molester and rapist of young girls.
    All religion is fraud.
    If you go to church you are not too damn bright.
    This will be censored because the site owner sucks up to Jews.

    • Yaweh is on an ego trip, Allah is a liar (the 79 virgin thing),Jesus was a wimp and Mohammed was a pedophile and nut job, and Jeremiah was a bullfrog.

    • i dont know what translation you are reading. but in the Catholic Bible, Numbers 31 says Moses spared the little girls who had been virgins, and had killed all the fornicators who ”prompted the unfaithfulness of the Israelites”

      nothing about rape… and spared the pure. which translation do you have?

  24. FUTUREDATABANK.COM Reported on this story FIRST!

  25. The only fight Islam had is with the tyrants, oppressors and usurers — collectively known as “the infidel” or those who serve Mammon at the expense of the rest of us — and that includes a big tent.

    Why should the usurers continue to destroy human lives everywhere…. we’ve got their number here:


    We believe the Muslim haters are not real Americans anyway, but simply Zionist shills.

    • Citizen, You are correct with your perception. People the world over are awakening to the deception, the hate, the lies and slander that surrounds the Muslim Ummah. The world will soon come to know that the average pious Muslim is in fact a NEO or MORPHEUS, fighting the Matrix (NWO). Salaams to you (Peace).

    • Citizen, I thought the Islamic definition of infidel was someone who wasn’t a believer in Allah and that Muhammad was his chief and final prophet. In Islam isn’t an oppressor or tyrant considered anyone who opposes Muslims?

      Furthermore, where did you get your definition of what an American is? Would you say that haters of Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, or atheists weren’t real Americans?

  26. Hah…Z comandoid…I SEE YOU.

    Which means you aren’t censored, even though you can’t distinguish between Zionism and Jews in general.

    I’ve read your racist rants on other threads–don’t try to pretend you aren’t a provocatuer.

  27. zionism / israel is the flea on the tail of the dog of european expansion. the “israellis” will always come back at their critics and say we are only doing what you have done to carve out a sphere of influence based on religion. the native peoples of north america are in nearly identical frame of reference as palestinians, only a little further along in the process. proportionally there are a great many more palestinians than european invaders in “israel” (greater palestine), but here, where the process is further along, the native peoples have more or less been exterminated and cultures forever defiled, with some notable exceptions. much of the attention paid to the middle east has to do with status of “holy land” and crusader rhetoric, while european expansion continues elswhere with worse consequences to the invaded. blaming the flea lacks credibility. We could use to fix our own house and our own minds, that way we have legs to stand on . The palestinians have taken a cue from the resistance of the native peoples of north america, which is, fight back or be ground to dust. The only reason there are any reservations or any accomadation via treaties (all broken) with the “indians” in USA territory is that although the battle was eventually lost, enough ground was gained to negotiate a trajic peace, other than extermination. There were also many decent people of European extraction who recognized the calamity and resisted the actions of the genociders to positive effect. Good essay.

  28. gillette

    the german people werent punished for what hitler did and churches were still allowed to be built throughout the u.s. and germany as well

    not a single german was asked to pay for what the nazis did—the nazis themselves were tried etc

  29. gillette

    when have christians in the u.s. ever admitted to being collectively guilty for anything? they killed 4 million civilians in vietnam (vietnams govt records); they have caused 1 million iraqi children to die with sanctions and war since 91

    did u.s. christians apologize when in jun1988 an iranian airliner was shot down in persian gulf by u.s. navy? did they protest against their christian religion? no they didnt

    have u.s. christians accepted guilt for the war crime of 1945 two atomic weapons dropped on completely innocent civilians in japan?

    collective guilt is a concoction of satan — no one is guilty for another mans action

    as for the 9/11 issue—there has never been any proof that the official bs is tru—fbi still doesnt list bin laden as the perpetrator of 9/11 attacks

    when taliban asked for proof that bin laden did it in 01 –u.s. gave zero proof and commenced to bombing

    now why should muslims be apologizing for something they personally didnt do and quite likely even NO MUSLIMS at all had anything to do with?/

    the likely culprit is the mossad according to u.s.military see below

  30. I agree this is being used as a divider socially and intended to cause disruption so the banks can implement martial law to put into law their illegal robbery of U.S. taxpayers, but, the islamics are also Nazis. They even supported the Nazis in World War II. The mufti of Jerusalem at that time was HAPPY to see the Jews murdered in Europe. It was only fair karma to have it come back to him in the form of national Israel. I like the sign the woman in the picture above. Saudi Arabia OUTLAWS Christianity in their country. There are NO churches allowed. I say lets kill ’em all and let God sort ’em out, not just the terrorists but the banksters who use the extremists anger to achieve their goals.

    • Oh FRank!

      Do you really believe all that garbage you spewed out? God help you man your head is full of muck.

  31. To everyone going back and forth about Islam etc., THIS WHOLE THING IS A RED HERRING! This stuff about the mosque at Ground Zero has been whipped up so that you do not pay attention to the important things that are happening right now, like the fact that the economy is going in the toilet, or that the Gulf region is being poisoned, or whateve else.

    • Hereward, Very true, which makes me wonder if the war against Iran or Syria will commence soon?

      The same thing happened prior to Gulf War 1. The propaganda machine went into full swing with their lies and slander, prior to the commencement of the attack on Iraq. Peace will prevail in the end my friend.

      “They (belligerent unbelievers) plot and plan, and Allah also plans, and Allah is the best of planners” (Al-Quran – 8:30)

  32. frank

    christians in germany and many other countries also supported the nazis — germany was considered the most religious country in europe at the time

    the italians are christian and were hitlers ally –many christians in u.s. and u.k.also loved and continue to love hitler

    so by this logic no churches should be sllowed in the u.s.

    it was germans who killed jews so the land given to jews should have rightly been in germany —not palestine

    true there are no churches allowed in arabia—it is holy land and sacred to muslims—nyc is NOT a holy land or holy city to christians—in fact it is the opposite and all manner of filth is perpetrated there —so there is really no comparison between makkah and nyc

    as for “killing the terrorist” the war is being lost in afghanistan after pulling out of iraq with no victory—killing people isnt as easy as you seem to think —by the way wwjd? would jesus say kill em all?

  33. its sad to see the evildoers at work again causing division and strife between communities in america. here in england the same people are promoting vilence and racism against muslims too under the banner of the english defence league. it just happens that most of these folks happen to be zionist jews hiding behind a christian facade to create mischief— when did building a synangogue in mecca have anything to do with christianity as in your photo of the demonstration?
    you shoudl recognise your enemies americans, its certainly not muslims. its those who have been called a BROOD OF SNAKES, or DEN OF VIPERS, or CHILDREN OF SATAN as written in the gospel of ST. JOHN 8-44 which you christians believe in, perhaps those baptist priests should read that openly in they churches for they foolish misled flock to come to they senses?

  34. just to clarify a point for your readers, saudi arabia allows freedom of worship to any religion but not propagation!

    you can have buildings to worship your faith like hindus do in arab countrys even though worshipping statues is anathema to us and you christians— the law of the land states clearly that!

    what the churches want to do is to propagate which is against the law of the land there, after all we have 14 million arab christians in the arab world for last 1430 years and they have lived in relative peace and harmony until the barbaric hordes of christianity came from the west under the guise of holy crusaders, who destroyed even the christian city of constantinople and murdered jews and christians in they so called holy zeal but really as the devils agents!

  35. to frank,
    the mufti you mentioned was only doing what is best for his people namely, (my enemys enemy is my friend!)
    to date he was right looking at the antics of the child abusers,oppressors,tyrants and killers currently infesting palestine as the chosen people let loose on the poor palestinians, to think that god almighty accepts this garbage which is against his laws is a real insult to our intelligence never mind your perverted one.
    the israeli zionist jew wickedness knows no bounds and we see it everyday plainly, enjoy your time until the time of restitution when your people will have to pay for the crimes you committ and have committed against humanity!

    if you doubt it, that then read the prophecys of nematallah shah wali by googling his name written 900 years ago all which have come true to date,time,name and period , whats coming for you zionist jews is as you say writing on the wall!!!

  36. There is no bottom to the barrel of stupidity in the USA.

  37. Wow… Utterly hopeless.

  38. The thing you really FEAR, is that your enemy is HERE. All this screaming and yelling at our own selves is MADNESS. The real outsider is the CORPORATE TRILLIONARES, WHO’S RELIGION IS GREED through VIOLENCE! YELL AND SCREAM AT THEM, they live here! IF AMERICA GETS NUKED, I DON”T CARE, because the DEVIL will point and SAY look how they hate their brothers, and curse them. See how they blind themselves through fear of knowledge. Is this not good reason they were killed? and so it was, human kind was destroyed once again for their atrocities…

  39. Boy, if a picture doesn’t say a 1000 word,

    “When Fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross”

  40. By Ahmed K. El-Shabazz

    It’s election time in America, which is the time when America’s political whores come out in full force. The so-called right-wing ” Christians” are , by far, some of America’s biggest political whores ever seen ! The so-called ” Tea Party” and so-called Christians on AM Talk Radio shows , like this 21 st Century house Negro

    the Rev. Jessie Lee Peterson, who makes his living putting down Black people as a whole and Muslims everyday on his radio show, are the true HATE TEACHERS in America today. With self-hating Blacks like Jessie Lee Peterson , the Tea Party , and the regular political whores ( Democrats and Republicans), Muslim Bashing is this years mid-term elections target of choice . America’s political whores are picking on the Muslim world , Blacks {and non-white immigrants }who live in America , because they know that most Americans have little or know knowledge of what Islam is and what it is not, nor do most Americans know the historical ties Islam has with America. So, I will show (with the help of ALLAH) how Islam has always been apart of America’s history, and how hypocritical America’s political leaders are when it comes to Islam in America.

    Let’s start with this : The right-wing Political leaders want to stop the building of an Islamic Center in New York City, because it is to be buildt 2 1/2 blocks from where the World Trade Center once stood. The Media is calling it a ” Mosque ” and the vote seeking political whores have all jumped on the ” hate the Muslims band-wagon ” , by bring up the attacks of ” 9 11 ” as the reason for stopping this community center from being buildt. The right-wing and others who are oppose to this Muslim Center being buildt say , ” it is to close to Ground Zero” , and that it, ” is an insult to the 9 11″ families ” . Well, firstly, Muslims DID NOT attack America on 9 11, and many people within the Government of America have came forward, and has said that ” 9 11 ” was an inside job, a pys-ops programme , that was used to start a war in the East. One such person is Mr. Ray McGovern, a former C.I.A. analysis. Point two is the fact that this Community Center is being buildt , not by Muslims , but by members of the Sufi Order. This Muslim Community Center is in fact NOT Muslim, but is Sufi , and they have a ” Mosque” just down the street from the once World Trade Center already, which as stood for years. Many people don’t know that the Sufis ARE NOT MUSLIMS, as pointed out in a book written by the great Sufi Leader Mr. Idries Shah , entitled THE SUFIS , written in 1964. In the introduction of Mr. Idries Shah’s book, written by Mr. Robert Graves, Mr. Graves wrote that the , ” Sufis are an ancient SPIRITUAL FREEMASONRY whose origins have never been traced or dated; nor do they themselves take much interest in such researches, being content to point out the occurrence of their own way of thought in different regions and periods. Thought COMMONLY MISTAKEN FOR A MOSLEM SECT, the Sufis are AT HOME IN ALL RELIGIONS: just as the ” FREE AND ACCEPTED MASONS ” lay before them in their Lodge WHATEVER SACRED BOOK-whether Bible, Koran, or Torah-IS ACCEPTED BY THE TEMPORAL STATE.” This is real HYPOCRITICAL on the part of America’s right-wing and other political Leaders who are engaged in Muslim bashing, because many of these same people are THEMSELVES Freemasons, Shriners and Eastern Stars ! The Masons and Shriners , or as the Great Mahdi ( Master W. Fard Muhammad) and the Messenger Elijah Muhammad (pbuh) called them ” MOSLEM-SONS ” , have a connection to the Sufis. Sir Richard Burton the English Freemason and Sufi ( also a spy sent to the East, during the British Empire of the mid 1800’s ) stated, ” Sufi-ism ” , was, ” the Eastern PARENT of Freemasonry.” Mr. Idries Shah confirms Mr. Burton’s statement by saying, ” A Shriner MUST be a Mason. His ritual is avowdly based upon a myth and ritual connected with the Holy Temple in Mecca. What possible connection, it is sometimes asked, could there be between the Mecca Temple of the Moslems and the TEMPLE OF SOLOMON and it’s building? There could be a VERY CLOSE CONNECTION INDEED. First let it be noted that charges against ancient Sufi included the TERRIBLE ALLEGATION THAT A MIME OF THE MECCA PILGRIMAGE CEREMONIES could be carried out ANYWHERE with equal validity to AN ACTUAL PILGRIMAGE.”

    [ NOTE: the same rites of the above concerning the Sufis mock Pilgrimage IS ALSO PERFORMED by the Shriners] Mr. Shah goes on to say, ” Secondly, let us remember that the great Sufi teacher Maaruf Karkhi ( died 815 ) is known as SON OF DAVID, and also as ” KING ” , a common Sufi appellation. The SON OF DAVID, by association, was SOLOMON. Solomon it was who rebuilt the Temple. Why Son of David ? Because Karkhi was the disciple of the illustrious teacher Daud el Tai. Daud is Arabic for DAVID. This DAVID died in 781. Less than a century before, about 691, the Saracens [ Arabs] REBUILT THE TEMPLE OF SOLOMON on the site which is NOW known as the DOME OF THE ROCK. This , AND NO EARLIER ONE , is the TEMPLE whose servants were the KNIGHTS TEMPLARS, accused of Saracenic leanings. IT IS NO ACCIDENT that after the dissolution of the ORDER OF THE TEMPLARS the FREEMASONS TOOK ON TEMPLARS TRADITIONS.” ( page 187-188 of THE SUFIS }

    Upon reading the above, one may ask, ” has some sort of split happened between the Eastern and Western Order of the Freemasons? ” Since both Orders called themselves THE BUILDERS, or ” Al-Banna ” which is Arabic for Mason, it seems something is going on that we are only seeing small part of. These political leaders also show how racist they are as well, because no one said a word when a Church was buildt AFTER the Oklahoma City Bombings not far from this act of terror. The Oklahoma City Bombings was done by a WHITE CHRISTIAN TERRORIST named Timothy McVeigh who had ties to White Christian hate groups. Did you see a ban on Churches being buildt by White American Christians, who have a long history of acts of terrorism against Blacks and Muslims ?

    Another show of American political hypocrisy towards Muslims is the fact that there are some 10 to 15,000 Muslims in America’s Armed Forces ( something that Islamic law forbids, but thats another story) . This Muslim population within America’s Armed Forces, at a time when America is at war with Islam , and while these same Muslim hating political leaders are saying ” support our troops” speaks to America’s love / hate relationship with Islam. Which leads us to the following story from SOLON, concerning the fact that there is a Muslim Mosque INSIDE the PENTAGON :

    “Muslims have been praying inside the Pentagon since Sept. 11 but right-wingers have been strangely silent


    Navy imam Chaplain Abuhena M. Saifulislam lifted his voice to God as he called to prayer more than 100 Department of Defense employees Monday at a celebration of Ramadan at the Pentagon.

    God is most great, sang the lieutenant commander and Islamic leader, in Arabic, as iftar — the end of the daily fast began.

    Uniformed military personnel, civilians and family members faced Mecca and knelt on adorned prayer rugs chanting their prayers in quiet invocation to Allah.

    The “ground zero mosque” story seems to be dying down, but nothing lays bare the absurdity of what we’ve just lived through quite so much as this Washington Times story, quoted above, from 2007.

    Yes, Muslims have infiltrated the Pentagon for their nefarious, prayerful purposes — daring to practice their religion inside the building where 184 people died on Sept. 11, 2001. They haven’t even had the sensitivity to move two blocks, let alone a mile, away from that sacred site.

    The “desecration” began shockingly soon after the attacks. Cox reported in October 2001:

    Army Chaplain Abdul-Rasheed Muhammad, the first Muslim chaplain to serve in the military, read a verse from the Koran at the memorial service at the Pentagon on Thursday, exactly one month after the attack. Muhammad, who became a chaplain eight years ago and works at Walter Reed Medical Center in Washington, ministered to rescuers in front of the smoldering Pentagon after the attack.

    Any guesses as to why no one has ever heard about Muslims praying at the Pentagon — let alone cared? It’s almost as if the entire “ground zero mosque” controversy was whipped up out of nothing by a right-wing tabloid and politicians in search of a wedge issue … “—————————————————————————————————————————————

    Again, I say, WHAT HYPOCRITES these so-called ” freedom loving” , white American ” Christians are ! Again, most of these same Muslim-hating political Leaders are Freemasons and Shriners. There are some 3,000,000 ( Three Million) white Shriners in America. I do not hear any of these political leaders calling on the ” Moslem-Sons” to close down their Temples !(Picture of a White American Shriner or Moslem-Son)


    ( The Late J. Edgar Hoover was a Shriner)

    Now, these same so-called White racist and their lackeys ( sell-out Black Leaders) will not tell you that the Prophet Muhammad’s ( pbuh) image is on the SUPREME COURT BUILDING in Washington , D. C. along with Moses( PBUH) and other ” LAW GIVERS” . The Prophet Muhammad’s image can be seen ON THE NORTH WALL of the Supreme Court Building in Washington , D. C. ! You see, the Right-wing is a racist group of political whores, who are taking advantage of the fact that most Americans are un-educated when it come to history, even so-called American History. Just a few years ago, the first Black man was elected to Congress from Minnesota, truly history in the making, but he is also the FIRST MUSLIM to be elected to Congress as well. Mr. Keith Ellison was bashed by the right-wing, anti-Muslim so-called ” Christians” for being a Muslim an ” Un-American” , because these dumb Right-Wing Christians wanted Mr. Ellison to take the Oath Of Office on the King James Bible, as they said ” this is a Christian Country”. Well, first, there is no law that states a person HAS take their Oath Of Office on any Holy Book, and 2nd America has NEVER been a ” Christian Nation”, as these dumb Right-Wingers and their even dumber followers believe, something I will get to later. When the time came for Mr. Ellison to take his Oath Of Office he shut the mouths of the Christian Right when he TOOK HIS OATH OF OFFICE ON THE HOLY QUR’AN, A COPY OF THE HOLY QUR’AN THAT WAS OWNED BY THE 3 RD PRESIDENT OF AMERICA , AND WRITER OF THE AMERICAN CONSTITUTION, MR. THOMAS JEFFERSON !!(Mr. Ellison taking his Oath Of Office using a copy of the Holy Qur’an that was owned by Thomas Jefferson)

    Again, HYPOCRISY on a grand scale !! The claim by these so-called White Christians that America is a Christian Nation is a BIG LIE. America’s ” FOUNDING FATHERS” were not “Christians”, if they were they would not have had SLAVERY ! America is, and was founded upon the MASONIC RELIGION, America IS a FREEMASONIC CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. Here is the writer of the American Constitution , Mr. Thomas Jefferson, concerning Christianity: “Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone upon man” , and this quote from Mr. Jefferson, “History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government.” He, Thomas Jefferson stated that he found NO redeeming qualities in Orthodox Christianity! Here is another “Founding Father” view of the Christian religion: “Lighthouses are more useful than churches” -“—Benjamin Franklin. Mr Franklin was a Freemason and a member of the Satanic ” HELL-FIRE CLUB “. Then there is the quote of one Mr. John Adams , who makes it clear that America is not a Christian Nation, when he said, ” The United States Government IS NOT IN ANY SENSE FOUNDED ON THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION. This was President John Adam writing of the TREATY OF TRIPOLI in 1797 , here Mr. Adams was letting Muslim Tripoli, Libya know that America was not Christian, but Masonic. There was also a Treaty Of Morocco ( as Muslim Morocco was the FIRST COUNTRY to recognize America as an independent Nation) to also free ANY Blacks ( Moors) from slavery, but the American Government had removed the title of “Moor” from the Black Slaves and had classified us, Black nation as ” Negros” , under The Negro Act of 1787. Yet another White American Devil trick using of words to get around this treaty !!

    What we as Muslims who follow the Messenger Elijah Muhammad(pbuh) find shameful are the number of Black Leaders who fail to address these facts. America used 310 years of FREE LABOR, slavery, to become the most powerful and rich nation on the Earth. And 80 % of the Afrikans Slaves were MUSLIMS. So really MUSLIMS buildt America for free, and now the Black Nation and the Muslim World, which includes ALL BLACK PEOPLE are still being hated by those who would not be where they are to today were in not for Islam. From the Caves of Europe, it was Islam that brought the White Race civilization by way of the Prophet Musa (Ozar Sef ), it was Islam by way of the Black Muslim ( THE MOORS) that brought the White Race out of THEIR ” Dark Ages “(570-1555) . Now it will be Islam, a New Islam , that ALLAH and the Black Nation will use to rebuild a New and Better world AFTER the removal of these war-making, white racist Devils of America, Europe, Israel, and Australia , and their HYPOCRISY towards ALLAH, HIS RELIGION AND HIS PEOPLE.

    WAKE UP! And stop believing the lies of these lying political whores and their dumb followers. Islam will win in the end, because the TRUTH AS NO OPPONENT.

    • Awwww SHUT UP already !!!!!!

      • Toxick 1, who are you wanting to keep quiet so as not to disturb you? I see a lot of hate mongering being foisting by people their canards but I don’t tell them to shut up, not even am ahmedel77 or hybridrogue1.

        I support freedom of speech but I also believe those who abuse it should be confronted or even suffer adverse consequences for their indiscretions.

    • Is this the kind of drivel you Elijah Muhammad (sbuh) types spin to one another while waitin’ on the Mother Plane? Tell you what, Shabazz, if Islam is such a hotbed of intellect and reason, suppose you and your bros get busy raising up a few PhD’s out of old Harlem town (aka the Cave of Manhattan) asap. Failing that, how about someone who can at least spell correctly? That’ll be truly revolutionary indeed!

    • McVeigh wasn’t a Christian. This may be hard for many Muslims to understand due to cultural differences but while McVeigh was born into a Catholic family and as a child went to church, he admitted he was an agnostic, that science was his religion. At best you could call him an apostate Catholic.

      It was Leonard Zeskind along with James Ridgeway who postulated out of thin air a conspiracy theory as follows; “There is every reason to believe that the attack was a call for revolution by the far right wing of this country, organized through the widespread militia movement and carried out by one of the leaderless terror cells created by that movement. It is probable that the three men being held in connection with the bombing—Timothy McVeigh, James Nichols and his brother Terry Nichols—are all members of that same militia cell.”

      None of their claims were proved correct. There was no militia connection and Terry’s brother James was never a defendant. It seemed that as Leftists, Zeskind and Ridgeway were only interested in trying to discredit the Right as indicated by much of their writings in various leftist sources.

      However there was evidence of a possible third conspirator in the OKC bombing, possibly a Middle Eastern man, most likely a Muslim. The evidence was never followed up on by the FBI as likely Clinton didn’t want evidence of a Muslim attack as that might have led to war.

      As for a Mosque or place for Muslims to pray in the Pentagon, it is considered a “mussallah.” Built after the attack, it’s part of an interfaith chapel where people of all faiths can pray. So the question is, should Muslims be forbidden to use an interfaith chapel? The answer is a wholehearted no unless Muslims use it to advocate or plan attacks against anyone. Do you disagree? I have to consider the following two paragraphs.

      You quote, I’m assuming you didn’t write it, the following: “Now it will be Islam, a New Islam, that ALLAH and the Black Nation will use to rebuild a New and Better world AFTER the removal of these war-making, white racist Devils of America, Europe, Israel, and Australia, and their HYPOCRISY towards ALLAH, HIS RELIGION AND HIS PEOPLE.

      WAKE UP! And stop believing the lies of these lying political whores and their dumb followers. Islam will win in the end, because the TRUTH AS NO OPPONENT.”

      Claim what you want but the above two paragraphs show an intolerant racist mindset, which by the way a part of a diatribe which makes several false claims including that Shriners were Muslims. And while you can claim you apparently didn’t author the racist diatribe paragraphs, they nevertheless show a typical Islamic viewpoint that I believe you share, otherwise you wouldn’t have included them. Obviously they’re meant as a declaration of war, one of many, against America and our Judeo-Christian heritage. Thank you for making the issue and the stakes quite clear.

    • your history lesson left out why Jefferson had a quran.

      im pretty sure it was because he needed to learn his enemy…. you know the muslim barbary pirates, who used Islam as their excuse for attacking our merchant ships. anyway, it made for a good USMC song. huh, so obama was right, Muslims have contributed to the United States. Thank you.

  41. Got a lot of time on your hands aye Shabazz?

    You’re interpretation of Jefferson and other founders is straight from Islamafairyland. Complete and utter twirlybird bullshit.

    The Founders were for the most part Deists, seeking a secular republic–none of your flatulance about an Islamic influence has any merit whatsoever.

    Religionist crap from any of these three “Holy Books” has had enough terrible influence on this poor world, without this third rate ranting lunacy you offer.

    You are as much a delusional idiot as any other cotton brained religionist.


  42. “It’s a sad thing to watch. Just when the time was ripe for the people of this nation to unite in opposition to the established government, we are now beginning to see them part ways and herded back into their respective corners.” Keith Johnson

    Very well said.

    Muslims, nor anyone of the faith of Islam attacked the United States on September 11, 2001.

    9/11 was a psy-ops. The military term for psychological operations.

    If we are to change this government, then it must be a clean sweep of every politician that believes the government 9/11 report. Every person that does not fully view the evidence that can be found through this one website, don’t make your comment about what I said until you have viewed this evidence. If we are to be a united people again to change the government, then all of us must be in agreement as what really happened that day on 9/11/01. There can be no change if people are unwilling to open their eyes and see for themselves those responsible and know that those who have been accused are innocent of the 10 years of lies directed at them. If you are going to hate, then know who your real enemy is before you open your mouth and spew out your vile at the innocent. – http://911research.wtc7.net/index.html

    The same people are behind the open border with Mexico for all of these many years. The same people are the ones that want to cause conflict in other nations to control the flow of oil and their other resources. These are the same people that what the conflict now with the NYC mosque so that there can be a reason to take away more of what we have through the Bill of Rights. They are setting the whole country up for a race religion skin color civil war to take total control. That is something I can prove if you will read the report from the CFR – http://www.cfr.org/search/?Ntt=illegial+immagration&submit.x=23&submit.y=16

  43. “judaism wasn’t founded by some guy who was a rapist, murderer, war-monger, theif, polygamist, liar who married a 6-year old girl!!”–Vigilo

    You have obviously never read the Talmud–Judaism was indeed founded by just such craven lunatics.

    You’re a fuckin’ liar if you claim to be a Catholic.
    You are an undercover Hasbara Golem Ziobird.


    • uh, that makes no sense.

      why would i be required to read the talmud if i were a Catholic?

      and how would i be a liar for not reading it?

      Sure Jews are in many positions of power, but yikes, you zionist conspiracy people should use reasoning before you post sometimes. Not everybody that disagrees with you is some masked mossad agent stalking you through the night…..

  44. All of the problems this nation has gone though by the actions of blundering presidents has been through the directions giving to them through this group. They state that they only give reports on how to handle different situation and that they are not involved with the government. But, if you read their reports on all of the world affairs over the last 80 years you will see they are the ones that are called, “the shadow government”. President Obama uses their reports almost word for word when he is giving one of those dreadful speeches. I have not looked into finding out if they have a report that would fit what is going on in NYC, but I can feel that they have something in one of their reports that deal with racial/religious issues and how to handle a frenzy like what happen in NYC. I can say that because they have already wrote a report about doing away with the borders between Mexico and Canada to create the NAU – North American Union, and they say this should be done by 2010, so we have the four more months to find out if that will happen. This is why we have the contention over the open border, the NYC mosque, the high unemployment, the constant terror alerts, unnecessary wars in foreign countries, and the dollar going down the drain et al. Help me find the report because there is a lot of them to look through. Exposing them can offset their agenda and give the American citizens a better chance to clean out these vile administrations. Every person from wherever they came from and those born here need to stop and look at whom the real enemies are and not let these issues get them divided, because that is their leverage to use for total takeover. We are all here now, and if divided then we are conquered.


  45. James 17,

    You are hitting it right on the head here.

    The 9/11 Psyop is the key to the whole enchelada.

    The action has already begun at the border with Mexico, the BP Gulf psyop is part of the overall scenario as well.
    The US Marines are deployed in large force farther down in Central AM being stealthily deployed during the “Capping” proceedure when the first hurricane came through…NOTE: airspace over the gulf is a no-fly zone, it is a military action taking place.

    Now drones on the border–just like Pak/Afg…targetted high tech killings to commence.

    NOTHNG collating this on the cartoon news.

    People get ready, the shit has hit the fan, the splatter just hasn’t made it to your face yet.


  46. Mosque Connection/CFR

    I submit this to further impress that this deeper probe into social engineering is not based on flatulent “conspiracy theory”–but is in fact keeping a running tally on the actual conspiracy as it unfolds through the lense of the panoramic view:


    The Cordoba Initiative, and Imam Rauf, affiliated with the United Nations Alliance of Civilizations and support for that came from fellow Council on Foreign Relations’ members. Imam Rauf himself was on the Council on Foreign Relations’ Religious Advisory Committee. The Cordoba initiative’s website cited “Christian support for the Cordoba House” from a Christian publication, “Sojourners,” which is owned by evangelical Christian writer and political activist Jim Wallis, also a sitting member of the CFR’s Religious Advisory Committee.

    American Society for Muslim Advancement (asma.org)

    Carnegie Corporations of New York, Rockefeller Brothers, Rockefeller Philanthropy, Rockefeller Brothers Fund, the Henry Luce Foundation, and Hunt Alternatives.

    “The Imam of the now infamous “ground zero mosque” is a member of the ultra elitist Council On Foreign Relations and receives financial backing from powerful globalist sources including the Rockefellers, the Carnegie Corporation and the Ford Foundation.

    “This information provides a compelling backdrop to the theory that the move to establish the mosque is a deliberate attempt to further stoke religious tensions and and divert attention away from the real enemy of free humanity, the corporate globalist elite who continue to profit from global war and division.”


  47. I see we have a lot of anti-semitic posters on this board who’ve no problem displaying their acerbic name-calling rhetoric. It would also appear many of these posters are Leftists. It should be pointed out that Islam is both socialistic and authoritarian. Perhaps that’s why the Left is so apologetic about Islam and hostile to Christianity.

    For you haters on the left, as a conservative registered Republican Christian I support the survival of Israel as a Jewish nation. This doesn’t mean excusing them when they’re wrong.

    By the way, I don’t excuse politicians of any stripes who abuse their constitutionally mandated duties. Nor do I excuse Christians who espouse hatred or intolerance, but I do oppose apathy in the face of, or worse, encouragement of evil. Nevertheless, I suppose some will be aliterate and distort what I wrote.

  48. “I see we have a lot of anti-semitic posters on this board..”–Recce1

    And just what does “antisemitic” mean to you O’holy rolly one?

    What exactly so “Semitic” about Eastern European Ashkenazi Zionists? How can they have “returned” to a Holy Land that their ancestors never once set foot on until the 20th century?

    You say you “support Israel as a Jewish nation”, in other words a theocracy–admitting tacitly that you have no regard for the terms of “democratic institutions”, justice, liberty and human rights.
    And by extension, the same attitude towards the constitutional republic in the US, that you and your fanatical religionist lunatics would make into a “Christian” theocracy as well.

    You then have the temerity to accuse others of being “aliterate”(sic) and “distorting” what you write.
    I have news for you hot shot, it doesn’t take any distortion to deconstruct your ignorance and hubris.

    Islam, did not declare war on the United States–the US has been the imperial warmongering power that even now occupies these Middle East nations, both militarily and economically–along with the sinister alliance with the Zionist maniacs of occupied Palestine.

    Your grasp of history is pitiful, and your critical facilities equally sad.


  49. Thank you hybridrogue1 for the link to what I had asked for.

    Recce; As a conservative registered Republican Christian, calling people anti-Semitic with one fork of your tongue and then claiming to not excuse Christians who espouse hatred or intolerance, that just does not sound like a church going, born again Christian. They have a lick of sense. You on the other fork of your tongue spew hatred and intolerance by using the term anti-Semitic, a vile tactic used by vicious people to try to silence others that speak the truth about Zionists. Zionist like to hide behind the veil of anti-Semitism and pretend to be Jews so people hesitate to criticize them. Rev. 2:9 “I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the Synagogue of Satan”. Since this was referring to the time frame we are living in today, you would be wise to do some research on that verse. The only thing you were called to do is to pray for the peace of Jerusalem. No where does it say in the scriptures that you have to align yourself with people that call themselves Jews. You may find yourself having been lead by the blind and you both will fall into the pit.

  50. Reading through a comment line such as this is always so depresssing. It is unbelievable how much bullshit people buy.
    From every kind of tootie fruity holy rolly fruitcake to uberman Amerikan exceptionalists…pitiful.

    A hard rain is going to fall.


    • hybridrogue1, I see that we have not only anti-semites but also a number of Christian haters as evidenced by the disparaging comment “O’holy rolly one.” You’re typical of the aliterate, inerudite posters on this forum since in your elitism you assume matters you’re completely ignorant of yet you have no problem showing disdain for Christians and Jews with your acerbic and puerile rhetoric.

      What makes you think that a secular democracy, a socialist democracy, even a Christian democracy, or other religious democracy would be right for every nation? Or what of secular, socialist, or religious authoritarian systems? What makes you assume that Judaism and/or Jews shun justice, liberty and human rights? Or what makes you think I believe America should be a Christian theocracy or even a “Christian” nation with laws based on the Bible? It seems you’re the intolerant and assuming one my friend.

      As I wrote, “Nevertheless, I suppose some will be aliterate and distort what I wrote,” and you fell into the trap. You’re indeed aliterate as well as semi-illiterate, so look up the word aliterate in an unabridged dictionary. You distorted what I said with your insinuation “that you and your fanatical religionist lunatics would make into a “Christian” theocracy as well.” I happen to believe in a democratic republican form of governance under constitutional law in a truly free market capitalist framework. I don’t believe in a “Christian” nation but I’d like to see a Christian influenced nation. And before you make more erroneous assumptions, when I say Christian influenced I mean Gospel influenced, not of a particular denominational or political spectrum influence. I hope you understand that.

      However, unless I hear differently from you I will assume, hopefully incorrectly, that by your comments “How can they have ‘returned’ to a Holy Land that their ancestors never once set foot on until the 20th century?” and “…along with the sinister alliance with the Zionist maniacs of occupied Palestine,” that you don’t believe Israel has a right to exist as a Jewish nation and that that the name Israel should be dropped. Those among other positions is what I call strong evidence of anti-semitism. I hope you’re not in agreement with Pres. Ahmadinejad and that my assumptions above are incorrect and unfair. I would be pleased to be wrong about you.

      Nevertheless, I don’t know what it is but it seems so many elitists who consider themselves literate seem to be semi-illiterate when they insinuate those who use the word aliterate are illiterate, and of course I’m being alliterate (alliterative). In any evert I’m willing to say what I am, a conservative registered Republican Christian, as opposed to some people who think they know something about Christianity or what a republican democratic constitutional democracy is, even if it sticks in some peoples’ craw, such as James17.

      The hard rain will be one of fire by the way.

  51. recce1 has poopie for brains. ha ha ha ha….yea


    • hybridrogue1, at least I have a brain to reason with, and what’s more, I definitely have more class than you have. I’d hoped you’d understand some points but I see that I’m mistaken. It seems that when demagogues can’t hold a cogent erudite discussion, they resort to puerile canards, innuendoes, prevarications, and ad hominem attacks. Sieg Heil Comrade hybridrogue, you’re a third rate hater who’d make Goebbels proud.

      By the way, does hybridrogue stand for a hybrid of part socialist, part fascist who as a rogue embraces anarchy and anti-semitism?

  52. Blow me Recce, I don’t debate sucks like you. I made my intelligent comments here already.


    • So you’re admitting you’re a mentally ill belligerent homosexual, it that it hybridrogue1? Perhaps next you’d like to threaten me?

      By the way, you’re incapable of making intelligent comments.

      • you have nothing but semantic drivle recce1



      • hybridrogue1, sadly you have nothing, neither honor nor courage, except rage and hatred at those you disagree with. You really need psychiatric help before you harm someone.

    • Where????? I must have missed them.

      • “I must have missed them.”–Toxin

        Yea, you seem to miss a lot.

        Now the battle cry of the potato headed leadership of the Tea Bagger tools is, “Get rid of the liberals and career politicians”. They want to replace them all with something much, much worse. There’s a certain kind of stupidity that is terminal. There’s no cure. What the outcome of it will be, I don’t know. Even now, some monstrous, retarded savior is lurching up out of the swamp of human ignorance to save his people. They are crying out for him. They want more of what they always wanted, to be more conveniently, less intellectually challenged and attached by wires to their genitals and taste buds, so that they can push the buttons of automatic gratification, just like the monkeys who kill themselves in the laboratories.


  53. http://www.opinion-maker.org/2010/09/when-will-we-see-the-next-mass-murder/

    “Americans are learning to fear Israel—as they should. A few of us remain charmed—despite the facts. For the True Believer, facts are likely to remain irrelevant.”

    This one is for all the idiots here who ‘support Israel’ and come on with this delusional rap about ‘saving Iraquis from Saddam’–yes Iraquis are humans too…the fact that the US has gone in and totally destroyed this nation for the Israeli agenda is somehow missing from their delusional thinking.

    This is especially directed at the mindless drivel spewed by recce1 and those who agree with him/her.
    You people who have no grasp of history; take heed, your time is going to come…sooner than later.


    • hybridrogue1, are you making puerile threats proving once again you’re incapable of civilized discussion? Do I detect a Jacobin biting at the bit to see gulags, psikhushkas, and killing fields instituted?

  54. End dual citizenship and get these Zionist motherfuckers out of the US government.


    • and put a muslim in?

      • Toxins…perfect moniker.

        “and put a muslim in” your ass.

        Yes, a great idea.

        Can you put more than five words together without exhausting your pea sized brain?



    • I see you’re still only able to resort to name-calling as like I said you’re incapable of cogent or civil debate.

      However, if we’re going to ask should we allow babies born to illegal immigrants in the US be granted automatic citizenship shouldn’t we also ask should anyone elected or appointed to a federal governmental position be allowed to hold dual citizenship? In addition should we not also ask that those appointed or elected to federal positions be required to prove their qualifications and citizenship status required for the position they want to hold?

      See how easy it is to make a point or ask a question without resorting to name-calling or profanity. Is that so hard hybridrogue1?

      By the way, please name those in the US government who hold dual Israeli-American citizenship that you believe should be kicked out of the US government.

      • “By the way, please name”…recce1

        Say pretty please and put sugar on it. Or think about t and realize you already know who I refer to…and if you don’t already know look it up in your browser bowser.

        I see you don’t like my style, mr. upper crust academic chatty cathy.

        Frankly I don’t give a damn what you think…but I do like to see you come back with your “highbrow” mister “civil” act, and act such the victim. You’re a phony shit act.

        Ahhh..yes, you don’t like the Anglo Saxon, it bruises thou loin. And now I must beg forgiveness for your purple balls.

        By jango jingolooska, you have opened yourself up for play. You want my to really irk you?

        That would be easy–ignore you. But you know what hot shot. When I’m in the mood to play, and someone reaches out for it–hey, I’m game. After all I’m giving you an opportunity to ramble on and on with your jejune critique, pointing out what a “cretin” I am by being frank with you.

        Yes, I’m making fun of you jackass. So what? You try to turn it into a “threat” with all the doublethink you can muster. Your an amateur, very pedestrian, and wet behind the PR ears.

        You sit there pretending you are scoring points on
        your “noble pedestal”, when in fact to anyone with any sanity can see that you are just a child counterfeiting an adult posture.

        I have nothing more to say to you concerning the subject of the article. I see you as no more than a target of jest. I am sure your next complaints will be equally amusing to me, so I wait with baited breath…Lol, rip my up tiger…ha ha ha ha…


      • http://www.viewzone.com/dualcitizen.html This has a list of politicians that hold duel citizenship. Some of them should have been kicked out as far back as when Nixon was president.

      • You are too kind and forthcoming James.
        These shills know full well what we are talking about.

        Recce1 is most likely hasbara himself.

        Why don’t you join us here at COTO, you are invited



      • hybridrogue1, of course you want to play as you’re incapable of mature mien. Your incoherent rambling says it all. It explains why you’re fearful of answering accusations, insinuations, and canards you concoct without the ability to back them up. So cower behind your absurd bellicosity and don’t answer. You only display your immaturity to others on the forum.

        And yes, I choose to write with more comportment than you could ever convoke and am willing to risk verbosity in an effort to be clear. It’s what’s needed to dispute Molotov cocktail throwers like you. However, I see it draws out the rancor and boorishness in you revealing deep seated emotional problems from a childhood that you’ve not grown out of. It’s so typical of a puerile leftist demagogue.

  55. hybridrogue1, Hasbara? Why not accuse me of being Mossad? Once again when you can’t back up your absurd claims you resort to puerile name calling. It’s so progressive of you.

    • Okay Recce, you’re Mossad.

      Do you feel better being promoted thus?

      “comportment”…yes well, as comportment is obviously your compartment, because your skin is like the thinnest of tissue, perhaps hand prints black and blue from merely reading my less than “comportive” missives…{yes I coined it}…perhaps an Advil, or a sip of wine??

      So…no comment on the dual citizen Zionist pricks in the government even though James was kind enough to enlighten; just more of the whining crybaby bullshit of victimhood. I suppose you have held a vote in your imagination and think in your self righteous delusions that YOU are the owner of the thread {grin}.
      “Puerile leftist demagogue”…”puerile” your thesaurus word of the day? You use it in almost every one of your rinkidinkie lollipop rants.
      This Hegelian mystical Left/Right dialectical nonsense is for the philosophically jejune; the conformists, the bean counters, the academically indoctrinated, and consummately clueless diaper loaders such as you prove yourself to be with every exchange we have.
      Let us recall the lessons Orwell tried to convey about political language.
      Let us recall that the “social language” has currency because of propagation, and that there are analytical techniques for discovering the origins of social language–that it IS the language of social engineering and does not arise out of the ether like spirits of ammonia, or through some form of osmosis flowing from your pillow as you dream at night.
      You my dear deluded Recce, are a ‘product’, not an intellect {and buy the way it is spelled alliterate, not aliterate }…you are the product of the dialectic, a dupe of social engineering who can’t see beyond the narrow horizons framed for you by synthesis. Those who fail to pull themselves out of the confines of the small box built in their minds by “education” ie., programming, are doomed to be buried in it.
      So take your holy mackerel kingfish and refrigerate it before the stench puts everyone on this forum in a state of nausia.

      • hybridrogue1, I hate to disappoint you but I’m not hasbara, Mossad, or Jewish, nor have I claimed to own this thread or attempted to dictate who should or shouldn’t post on it although you imply you speak for everyone on it. Also I don’t claim to be an “intellect” although you seem to think you are one. I guess your assumptions, or should I say prevarications, are wrong once again.

        By the way, alliterate means to show alliteration, a figure of speech. Aliterate refers to a person who is able to read and write but chooses not to learn from what he reads as opposed to the word illiterate which refers to someone unable to read and write, or to someone who is semi-illiterate, one with limited linguistic ability. I unfairly thought you were the latter but it seems you can use long words, even in hatred, so my apologies. Admittedly I’m using the archaic meaning of the word aliterate. I use longer words at times to both convey more extended implications or just to expand my learning hoping to become an “intellect.” But I guess you object to both unless people acquiesce to your “superior intellect.”

        James did post a link, after my asking you the question, to a somewhat leftist site with an anti-Jewish bias yet it is fairly inclusive of names and accurate about positions held of those holding dual American-Israeli citizenship who either had served in the government or were very influential in our economy. I also found a site that believes that Madoff was a Mossad agent. But I didn’t ask James which were in the current administration and should be thrown out. I asked you, and not for a link. Maybe that went over your head. So who are they in your opinion?

        At least I’m willing to define words or to try to answer questions which you seem loath to do, preferring instead ad hominem attacks which makes you immature indeed.

      • Honestly Recce, I don’t think you are Mossad {they are much more clever than you}, as far as mistaking you for being Jewish…again I am pulling your leg.
        You are a Christian Zionist, which is nutty enough for me.
        However, to think that I “hate” you is to project too strong of feelings to me. I don’t hate you, I think you are silly, and actually pity your unfortunate situation as a dupe of the post modern paradigm.
        Like I tried to say before, chill out. You take everything much too personally.

        I didn’t argue with you with you, but rather just gave you a dose of ridicule, because there is no winning with a True Believer, it is a waste of time.
        Rather than waste time, I had fun with you, nothing else. You should grow a thicker skin if you are going to get into these debates…but I don’t expect you are open to any advice at this point.
        Whatever you do, try to take something positive away with you, something real–open your mid up, think for yourself. Consider our dialog as my form of “shock doctrine”–sort of like slapping a hysterical woman into running when she is frozen with fear at a tigers attack. Whatever.
        Enough, go in peace. \\ll//

  56. Now Recce,
    Let it not be forgotten that it was you who come on this thread with your PUERILE charges of “Antisemitism”, that began our exchange.

    Having such a pedestrian conceptualization of the term, you come on spouting in your self righteous glee about a topic you are obviously totally ignorant of, having swallowed the Zionist propaganda that rules this country.

    Having internalized this bullshit, you take on the same attributes—that of whining victimhood. I asked you about the historical truth of the Ashkenazi Jews, who’s ancestral linage begins in the Caucuses some 800 years ago. It flies right over your head like a stealthy drone.

    You pass up every post I have made containing information, choosing instead to play out your little snit about my ‘uncivil’ language directed at you. I have pointed out your tricky dicky use of editing my quote to create a strawman argument as to it being an “absurd” statement. No comment on this from you—you just hope no one notices and go merrily along with your pretense at being some sort of intellectual.
    Then you charge ad hominem, proving you haven’t the slightest idea of what the term means.

    One of the most widely misused terms on the Net is “ad hominem”. It is most often introduced into a discussion by certain delicate types, delicate of personality and mind, whenever their opponents resort to a bit of sarcasm. As soon as the suspicion of an insult appears, they summon the angels of ad hominem to smite down their foes, before ascending to argument heaven in a blaze of sanctimonious glory. They may not have much up top, but by God, they don’t need it when they’ve got ad hominem on their side. It’s the secret weapon that delivers them from any argument unscathed.

    In reality, ad hominem is unrelated to sarcasm or personal abuse. Argumentum ad hominem is the logical fallacy of attempting to undermine a speaker’s argument by attacking the speaker instead of addressing the argument. The mere presence of a personal attack does not indicate ad hominem: the attack must be used for the purpose of undermining the argument, or otherwise the logical fallacy isn’t there. It is not a logical fallacy to attack someone; the fallacy comes from assuming that a personal attack is also necessarily an attack on that person’s arguments.

    As I made clear from the beginning of our exchange, I was, and am not addressing your arguments, I am ridiculing you. I have made that point most clearly.
    And you still might wonder why. Why would someone be so mean? Because you speak from your ass, and have no idea of what you are talking about, that is why. Just this preamble of “I see we have some Antisemites here”, having no intellectual comprehension of what a semite is, let alone a anti-semite.

    You have shown yourself ignorant of not only language and words, but of history, and by extension current events.

    You are completely ignorant of the phony Right/Left paradigm propagated by the Prussian school of Hegel and his mystical dialectical, meant to mold the world into a god-like state. And you use your ignorance as a tool to accuse me of being a “leftist”, as if I were engaged in your silly “hurray for my team” bullshit game.

    Now, I have had enough of this. You can go on as the useful idiot, or you can actually think about what I have said here. It’s your choice, wise up or die stupid.


    • As you hubristically trumpet hybridrogue1, you’re not attacking my arguments or answering my questions, you’re simply ridiculing me.
      Am I supposed to cry or shake in my boots? However my friend your various tactics fit both of the following definitions of an ad hominem attack: “1. appealing to one’s prejudices, emotions, or special interests rather than to one’s intellect or reason. 2. attacking an opponent’s character rather than answering his argument.” The purpose of your attacks is precisely to undermine any argument I might make by attacking my faith, political beliefs, or because I don’t support your position. Of course it could mean you just have an animus towards anyone who disagrees with you and therefore resort to attacking them for fun out of some misplaced notion of elitism, which seems very likely. Then your objection to my using the term ad hominem attack might make some sense, although not much. But don’t fret, I don’t feel like the Lone Ranger as I’m not the only target of your incivility. It’s seems to be your modus operandi in dealing with those you don’t agree with you. I guess your definition of a robust discussion varies markedly from mine. You know how it is with us delicate types, particularly those of us possibly with some Sephardic ancestry who wear our hearts on our sleeves.

      You accuse me of linguistic ignorance but it’s you who seemingly doesn’t understand that the term Semite as defined by Dictionary.com means “1. member of any of various ancient and modern peoples originating in southwestern Asia, including the Akkadians, Canaanites, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs, 2. a Jew, 3. a member of any of the peoples descended from Shem, the eldest son of Noah, and Arabs.” Also the term anti-semitic is generally accepted in English speaking countries as meaning “a person who discriminates against or is prejudiced or hostile toward Jews.” But please refer me to an American or English dictionary that defines anti-semitism as discrimination against Arabs or other non-Jewish Semites. In over a dozen dictionaries I haven’t found such a definition. It would seem that such a definition is an urban legend, sounding like newspeak to me, that many anti-Jewish or Islamic people conjure up to avoid the charge of being anti-semitic when they clearly display hatred towards Jews, whether Ashkenazim, Sephardim, or Misrahim, the three major groups. Usually those same objectors to the term anti-semitic are quick to call others racist if they oppose Mr. Obama’s policies. By the way Jews originating from the Caucus region are usually referred to as Mountain or Georgian Jews, not Askenazim.

      As for Ashkenazi Jews, they’re considered the Jews descended from medieval Jewish communities along the Rhine in Germany, not the Caucus region as I said above, many of whom later migrated to Lithuania, Poland, Hungary, Russia, Belaerus, Ukraine, and other eastern European areas, which included the Caucus region. that region I believeruns between the Black and Caspian Seas near the Caucus Mountains from about SE Ukraine to almost NW Iran. The original migration was due to expulsion from Judea due to Jewish rebellion against the Romans in which they first dispersed to Syria and the Mesopotamian area then eventually to Frankish lands during Charlemagne’s reign, then to the German Rhine area, near where I lived for some years, to become what is know as the Ashkenaz area.

      Not all Jews are Ashkenazi although they make up the vast majority of them, particularly in the US. But that doesn’t mean that they didn’t have ancestors from what people call Palestine as I noted above so I didn’t go into their history with you. Besides, I didn’t want to tell you you weren’t accurate on their origins. Also I’ve seen the spelling for such European Jews as AshkeNAZI and Ashke-Nazi, the inference being quite clear. Now I’m not accusing you of that, just citing some recent history. Another bit of history is that some notable Ashkenai Jews were Einstein, Gereshwin, and Bernstein.

      By the way, what’s likely to get us killed here in America is Mr. Obama and the progressives, the Aztlan open borders crowd, or the appeasers of Islam; them or some drunk driver we’re afraid of permanently taking the keys away from.

  57. In muslim countries like qatar and Saudi arabia, church buildings and displays of crosses are NOT ALLOWED!!!That means there is no freedom of religious expression!!

    • Yea Kam? and you know this by personal experience?

      Didja know in Israel they don’t allow a + sign for addition. Why? because it is a cross.

      Do you know what a Kykos is? It is a circle. The illiterate Jews coming through Ellis Island refused to use the X for their signature {illiteracy was common to many immagrants in those days}. This is where the word Kike originates, from the immagration officers, referring to Jewish papers in their files. They didn’t mean anything mean using the word.

      Interesting, the evolution of words and symbols, aye?

      I don’t think Saudi Arabia has a 1st Amendment. In fact, I thnk the US is exclusive in that.

      Somehow exporting “democracy” through force of arms never seems to get to that point. Huh…”I’m gonna free yer ass, or kill ya tryin'”

      Don’t pee in a thunderstorm and watch your Ps and Qs.


      • Dear dear Recce…
        No I was not calling Kam a liar. I think if you had the ability to read with comprehension, you might note that I was making the point that no other nation has comparable laws of freedom of religion as the US, by mention of the 1st Amendment.
        I posed the question as to the verification Kam may or may not have as to his/her assertion.
        So no I didn’t call him/her a liar. But I am calling you an asshole. Up front, with no doubts left to your imagination. How is that?
        Any more questions you have may be left with my agent.


      • hybridrogue1, are you calling kam a liar about churches and synagogues not being allowed in Saudi Arabia?

  58. Alright Recce, let us begin here, if you want to discuss this in earnest. Let’s deconstruct the dictionary definitions of anti-semitism, that clearly exclude “Arabs or other non-Jewish SEMITES”. I should think the Orwellian aspect of the dictionary definition should be self evident at a glance.

    So as you see, my critique is cultural, and not merely aimed at you specifically. I mentioned Orwell’s warnings about socio-political language previously.

    This common dictionary illustration can make his prescience clear, right here on this particular instance. It is not those who consider semites to be semites who are using Newspeak, it is those who consider the only semites to be exclusively Jews ,who are caught up in the Orwellian bind. That this means a majority is no matter in regards to actual truth.

    Now, to the issue of “Jewish dispersion”: “The original migration was due to expulsion from Judea due to Jewish rebellion against the Romans in which they first dispersed to Syria”.

    This is not historically accurate, but mythology. The Romans did not “expel” populations, they executed leaderships via Crucifixion. The common people of Palestine were not driven in mass from their lands, as you posit here. Those who escaped were the in the main the priesthood and the scribes, the Pharisees. Small numbers in contrast to the “lesser brethren” of that day, who remained and later converted to Islam.

    The conversion of the Khazars is simply historical fact, evidenced not only by historical record, but by archeology as well.

    Now, this argument is not one I am willing to banter back and forth with you. As I have said, and will repeat no more, arguing with a True Believer is futile.

    The main issue is; Are the Jews the Chosen People? Do they have the deed to the ranch because of some pact with some ancient Canaanite volcano god? Was the world was created Oct. 23, 4004 B.C. – making it exactly 6,014 next month?

    I reject these things and consider all of it mythology and in the present tense, utter bullshit.

    We could go on for weeks arguing how many angels can dance on the head of a pin…which is not the POINT!

    This is my last and closing argument. Take it as you will. Good luck, I hope you find your Heaven and live happy ever after.


  59. “It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks, claiming to be priests of Jesus.”
    – Thomas Jefferson


    • And to what was Jefferson referencing? Was he not denouncing the concept of the Trinity? Didn’t Jefferson say that “To the corruptions of Christianity I am indeed opposed; but not to the genuine precepts of Jesus himself. I am a Christian, in the only sense he wished any one to be; sincerely attached to his doctrines, in preference to all others; ascribing to himself every human excellence; & believing he never claimed any other.”

      By the way, didn’t Jefferson also say “Bigotry is the disease of ignorance, of morbid minds; enthusiasm of the free and buoyant. Education & free discussion are the antidotes of both.”

      • By the way, didn’t Jefferson also say “Bigotry is the disease of ignorance, of morbid minds; enthusiasm of the free and buoyant. Education & free discussion are the antidotes of both.”–Recce

        Because he knew people who were as twisted up as you.
        I have not “disinvited you from this discussion”, I have said that what you offer is bullshit.

        I never once said I have anything against Jesus. I have said that I have a LOT against those who call themselves Christians and support the terror state of Israel; The so-called “Christian Zionists”.

        Jefferson wrote a Bible, inwhich he edited out all of the mystical aspects of it. He rejected the whole idea of the “virgin birth”–the whole magical mystery tour of it–but he found the words and wisdom of Jesus to be truth.
        So yes, he was denouncing the trinity. And also denouncing charlatans claiming to be priests, and those hypocrits like so many today who use the name of Jesus to instigate wars and hatred.

        So…what are YOU getting at?


  60. It’s no surprise you won’t “banter back and forth.” You’ve already shown you can’t answer simple questions so instead you resort to bellicosity, and not just towards me as your reply to kam and to my question regarding it shows. So who is the true believer with their head stuck in the sand and one hand up giving the world the bird?

    Did I write or even mention that the issue was who the Chosen People were or when the world was created? Did the author of the article or you previously make that the point? Since you now claim it I must assume you’ve lost grasp of reality and further discussion of issues would only harm your precarious mental state. I’m sorry to see that my friend.

    If you think my discussions with you were to make you a believer in Christianity or something, you’re mistaken. Unlike you I didn’t prove dishonesty by claiming I was just playing with someone. When I debate someone despite they’re showing they’re incapable of cogent discussion but need to resort to foul rhetoric, ad hominem attacks, and who try to change the meaning of words like a jejune progressive it’s because I hope to show others there’re other opinions and perhaps to convince them to reconsider the conspiracist mindset and to distance themselves from hatred. But I know from your replies your too mentally unstable to understand.

    However, thanks for admitting that like a petulant child you’ll gather up your marbles, what little you have left, and skulk home. I won’t wish you good luck, just that you have a Saul encounter. And I’ll pray for your soul.

  61. hybridrogue1, yeah right, you weren’t implying that kam was a liar. And just what does the following imply, “Yea Kam? and you know this by personal experience?” Was it agreement or just a temper tantrum?

    Oh, by the way, have you ever seen a Hebrew calculator?

    • “Was it agreement or just a temper tantrum?”

      It was a question.

      The Gregorian works for me just fine.

      The date, Oct. 23, 4004 B.C. comes from a famous/infamous Christian scholar, not me.

      You want to just chit-chat? Why don’t you find someone to yak with who doesn’t think your an asshole?


      • You’re a loser Recce, a fob, a useless mouth job.

        You haven’t a “question” worth answering.

        Stick your cigar up your ass.


      • Nice try at avoiding my questions but no cigar.

      • What a rational post from a great thinker. Am I supposed to genuflect?

      • In what, have you shown any rationality?

        No, do not genuflect…I’m trying to get you OFF of your knees and open your mind.

        Like I said; a form of shock doctrine.

        You stop being a wise guy with me Recce, and I’ll treat you like a gentleman,


      • Wise guy, please. By your definition it’s anyone who dares stand up to your hubris and animus. You don’t know the meaning of a wise guy nor what it takes to be a gentleman. It’s certainly not wealth, education, or talent, none of which you likely posses. It’s a matter of class or grace, which you haven’t shown to anyone who disagrees with you. Go ahead and resort to your foul rhetoric and coarseness, it only proves your churlishness and mental instability.

        As for using another language; Sie sind nicht ein Herr. Aber Antwort das bevorzugen Sie die Tötung des ganzen Ashkenazim als die Lösungen zu den Problemen in der Welt?

        Or would you prefer; Usted no es un señor. ¿Pero respuesta este, prefiere usted la matanza de todo Ashkenazim como las soluciones con los problemas del mundo?

      • All you want to do is squawk squawk Recce.

        You haven’t said a fucking word here but whine at me.

        Why don’t you go play with yourself. I’m through with you. Get it? Buzz off.


      • Buzz off? By whose authority, yours?

        Also I see not only do you admit to being a closet homosexual but also to being an onanist. By the way, you’re not a proctologist what with your fascination of certain parts of the anatomy are you?

  62. Reeeceee baybeee,

    This nation was established by conspiracy theorists, and if it is to be saved it will be by conspiracy theorists.
    Anyone who truly grasps the Declaration of Independence understands it is defining a conspiracy by the Crown against the colonists.

    I admit to “foul” language, but it is not used “rhetorically”…and you still misconceive the meaning of “ad hominem”.

    The legitimacy of the racist state of Israel is according to their own demented ideology based on the delusion that they are the “Chosen People”, and that “God gave the “holy land” to them–are you now retracting your support for these yahoos?

    I am not a “progressive”, jejune nor otherwise—keep your pidgin holing for yourself.

    “your precarious mental state”…you have made this assertion numerous times. And then you sit and whine because I call you an asshole. That would be funny if you had the capacity for self reflection.

    Let me ask you this mulch brain, do you think anyone else is reading this ‘dispute’ between you and I, or anyone gives a shit?

    Yes, I have a lot of disdain for the average Amerikan jingo jug head warmonger dip shit.

    What does it mean to be well adjusted in a psychotic society?


  63. Here Recce,

    If you want to continue to get your shorts twisted up in a knot to match your skullnoodle, ponder this.
    Don’t bother to relate all the nonesense about this being “disproven” by your precious academia…I know the jig inside out.

    So when one reads the Protocols, these infamous documents proclaimed as fraud by ‘authority’, and can trace throughout history that said protocols and nomenclature has indeed been carried out, what should a reasonable person make of it? As is amply noted, proof is in the putting {or in the pudding, depending on choice of flavor}

    Keeping in mind that a comparison between the protocols and the documents of the Illuminati, proves them to be so close that they are but an updated version of these 18th century documents.
    It could even yet be discovered that they are of Jesuit origin—a double blind deep revetment, or ‘modified limited hangout’ {in spookspeak}.

    But all of this misses the central point, which is the accuracy in which this agenda played out openly through out history.

    To see this clearly however we must consider the “obedient children of authority”, several generations deep now. By what manner to we reach them? They have been programmed to be suspicious of free thinking, and sincerely believe that they already do ‘think for themselves’.
    How many can actually be reached by simple appeals to reason, when the programming is psychological and playing on emotions? Even teaching and proving the open history of social engineering often leaves them untouched. Finding ourselves faced with the argument that the words they read, written by the social planners, can’t possibly mean what they actually say; is to confront denial head on. How does one not “insult” a person in denial when attempting to point out that the person is clearly ‘delusional’?

    It is understood before hand that this is a deep ‘suggestion’ compounded by layers of emotional padding. This padding after all is considered to be a ‘vested interest’, they feel their ‘personhood’ is part and parcel of this padded vest.

    It is a hard truth in itself to admit that some large majority is locked into this psychic paradigm and will remain unreachable.

    It is clear that most people are continuing to go along in their distracted and entertained ways even as the ground beneath their feet begins to crumble away. ‘Fate’ seems to be their internalized answer to the situation they face.

    This belief in ‘Happenstance’ is one of the greatest ruses accomplished by the social engineers, “coincidence” “accidents” and “bumbling officialdom”, being the perpetual mantra of the official message.

  64. I am referring to:

    “But when we are in power we shall remove every kind of disturbing subject from the course of education and shall make out of the youth obedient children of authority, loving him who rules as the support and hope of peace and quiet.” Protocol 16:3 [partial]


  65. C’mon Recce, I can just see you dancing the heebree jeebee jitter bug now, singing “Anti anti ra shiboom yea yea yea ANTISEMITE” Now aren’t you?

    Not the {shhhh…protocols???? yoiksa yoiksa la bomba loiksa}.


  66. “[T]he majority of politicians, on the evidence available to us, are interested not in truth but in power and in the maintenance of that power. To maintain that power it is essential that people remain in ignorance, that they live in ignorance of the truth, even the truth of their own lives. What surrounds us therefore is a vast tapestry of lies, upon which we feed.”
    – Harold Pinter, Nobel Lecture (Literature), 2005

  67. So the enterprise of economics became devoted to masking the lie about money. Bad lending practice, price fixing and monopolistic controls were the main threats to the natural justice of a free market, and occurred only as errors in a mostly self-regulating system that could be moderated via adjustments of interest rates and other “safeguards.”

    Meanwhile no mainstream economic theory makes any mention of the fact that money itself is created wholesale in a fractional reserve banking system owned by secret private interests given a license to fabricate and deliver debt that must be paid back (with interest) from the real economy, thereby continuously concentrating ownership and power over all local and regional economies.

    It is quite remarkable that the largest exploitation scam (private money creation as debt) ever enacted and applied to the entire planet does not figure in economic theories


    • At least now you’re talking sense when you warn about the fractional reserve banking system.

      • No Recce, I am not just beginning to make sense–YOU are just beginning to recognize it.

        All of what I have been saying is of a connected whole.
        It is connecting the dots–pattern recognition.

        The Fed is the creation of the same force–Zion, that created Israel, the Russian revolution, both world wars, etc.

        It is part of the “Conspiracy Theory” that you are urging others to dismiss.


  68. By James Petras

    Any serious effort to understand the extraordinary influence of the Zionist power configuration over US foreign policy must examine the presence of key operatives in strategic positions in the government and the activities of local Zionist organizations affiliated with mainstream Jewish organizations and religious orders.



  69. great post !!! keep sharing… :)

  70. Islamaphobia would be greatly lessened if we were to hear more muslims speak out against radical muslim terrorism. there seems to be no condemnation on the islamic right for the actions of the radical left. None seem to condemn Hamas’s constitutional call for the destruction of Israel. No condemnation for 9/11. We do not see Islam as a religion of peace when they teach their children that Jews are no better than monkeys. Sharia law condemns women and calls for death to infidels, anyone who does not believe in Islam. As a result we will never see peace and we are headed for a war between Islam and the rest of the world as a result.

    • So Fruity, if you were forming a terrorist group, would you call yourself, “The Toilet”?

      “Ana raicha Al Qaeda” is colloquial for “I’m going to the toilet”. A very common and widespread use of the
      word “Al-Qaeda” in different Arab countries, in the public language is for the toilet bowl.

  71. Fruity,

    How do you expect to hear the voices of moderate Islam when the Jew control everything you hear and it is a well known fact that CIA-Taliban-ISI-Al-Qaeda is a collaborative network, and that maintaining “militant Islam” is a long-term Anglo-American geostrategy.

    Do you know that al Qaeda means, “the western toilet” in common street Arabic? 9/11 WAS condemned by many Muslims shortly after the event–but again you have the Jew filtered press showing you anti-American protests films from Iran that are ten years old with a voice over that they are current reaction to 9/11.

    The fact is 9/11 was a Psyop of Western Intel, the “ragheads” were pastsies set up for the very reason you are here making these statements, to trick you into believing a load of bullshit.

    As far as Hamas. Have you ever seen a map of the territories Israel has stolen from the Palestinians since 1947?

    Hamas knows, just as any sane human who understands the history of this region, that Israel will not be satisfied until they have pushed every Palestinian out of Palestine–or extinguished them all together; “It is forbidden to be merciful to them,” he was quoted as saying. “You must send missiles to them and annihilate them. They are evil and damnable.”Rabbi Yusef about Arabs (2001)

    http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/915.html al Qaeda created by western intel. Operation Cyclone.

    “We were set up to fail”
    –Hamilton and Kean, co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission

    British Petroleum or BP. They are the reason we have a nutball Muslim theocracy in Iran right now. The coup against Mosedeq was to protect BP “investment”/scam on Iran. The dots that followed are all in the record of history. Thank Kermit Roosevelt conducting this overthrow of a democratically elected government and starting the ball rolling. This modern situation with Iran is the result of a dialectical synthesis and is not just a matter of ‘chance’. This ‘foil’ to the west was engineered as ‘the controlled opposition’. Do you really think those who control the world don’t know how to control the world?


  72. Al-Qaeda

    What does the word “Al-Qaeda” mean ? In Arabic, “Al-Qaeda” has a different
    meanings, among them “Base”, “Ground”, “Norm”, “Rule”, “Fundament”,
    “Grammar”. The exact meaning is dependent on the context in which it is used.
    It depends on the word which follows “Al-Qaeda” in the sentence. “Qawa’ad
    Askaria” is an Army Base, “Qawa’ad Lugha” stands for Grammar Rules (the
    Bases of Grammar).
    “Qa’ada” is the infinitive of the verb “to sit”. “Ma-Qa’ad” is a chair. “Al-Qaeda”
    is the base or fundament of something. “Ana raicha Al Qaeda” is colloquial for
    “I’m going to the toilet”. A very common and widespread use of the word “Al-
    Qaeda” in different Arab countries in the public language is for the toilet bowl.
    This name comes from the Arabic verb “Qa’ada” which mean “to sit”,
    pertinently, on the “Toilet Bowl”. In most Arabs homes there are two kinds of
    toilets: “Al-Qaeda” also called the “Hamam Franji” or foreign toilet, and
    “Hamam Arabi” or “Arab toilet” which is a hole in the ground. Lest we forget
    it, the potty used by small children is called “Ma Qa’adia” or “Little Qaeda”.
    Those who founded the glorious “International of Islamic Terror, Al-Qaeda,
    probably knew too little about common use of Arabic language to know that by
    using this name for their organization, they risked becoming the laughing stock
    of everybody who speaks the Arabic “public” language.

  73. On the morning of September 11, Pakistan’s Chief Spy General Mahmoud Ahmad, the alleged “money-man”
    behind the 9-11 hijackers, was at a breakfast meeting on Capitol Hill hosted by Senator Bob Graham and
    Rep. Porter Goss, the chairmen of the Senate and House Intelligence committees.
    “When the news [of the attacks on the World Trade Center] came, the two Florida lawmakers who lead the
    House and Senate intelligence committees were having breakfast with the head of the Pakistani intelligence
    service. Rep. Porter Goss, R-Sanibel, Sen. Bob Graham and other members of the House Intelligence.

    The chair and vice chair of the 9/11 Commission, respectively Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton,
    assert in their book, Without Precedent, that they were “set up to fail” and were starved of
    funds to do a proper investigation. They also confirm that they were denied access to the truth
    and misled by senior officials in the Pentagon and the federal aviation authority;
    and that this obstruction and deception led them to contemplate slapping officials with
    criminal charges.


    “New Pearl Harbor”
    Section V of Rebuilding America’s Defenses, entitled “Creating Tomorrow’s Dominant Force”, includes the
    sentence: “Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long
    one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event–like a new Pearl Harbor” (51).[22]


  74. And when I looked further into these events, they seemed to head toward a synthetic confluence, where the
    two become one; and the sum becomes the whole… a shadow is a 2-dimensional representation of a 3-
    dimensional object… and in order to find the source which casts the shadow, one must go to the base from
    which the shadow is cast. Al Qaeda is the shadow cast by elements of the intelligence community… “Al Qaeda”
    means the Base, and “Al Qaeda” takes its name from a database file wherein information on miscellaneous
    terrorists was filed for future classification. RICHARD ANDREW GROVE
    Osama bin Laden was trained in the United States, by U.S. Intelligence Agencies, sponsored by U.S. Taxpayer
    dollars; but few are aware that his code name was Tim Ossman- OSSman; get it? And you see, there are quite a
    few of these twisted little side-jokes sewn into the fabric of this ongoing fraud.
    What does this mean? The entire planet has been fooled into believing that an Islamic “organization” exists to
    promote the destruction of Western society, when in fact this “organization” is just a list of Pentagon/ CIA
    trained assassins, who can be used and discarded as needed.
    Madsen also notes the fact that it is well-known that US funding for the Afghan mujaheddin, who were fighting
    the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, spawned both Al Qaeda and the Taliban, as reported by BBC Teheran
    correspondent Frances Harrison.
    “It is noteworthy that Cook made his revelation about the ‘Al Qaeda’ computer file of mujaheddin volunteers
    one day before the Abu Hafs Al Masri Brigades became the second terrorist group to claim responsibility for the
    London blasts,”
    Pentagon/ CIA database called “Al-Qaida, literally ‘the database,’ was originally the computer file of thousands
    of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians,” the Global
    Bogeyman of the 21st Century is a complete fiction.

  75. I hope this gives y’all something to chew on…especially the True Believers who need to start thinking for themselves.



    • hybridrogue1, who accused me of being chatty? By the way, are you not a True Believer in what you say? And what is that novel thing, is it you?

      • Belava…a sanskrit word.

        Bel; War, juvenile, belligerant, Baal, anger..etc.

        Against; Ava, Eve, Earth, sustanance, caring…etc.

        Belief v knowledge.

        “True Believer”; dogma, tribal programming, blind unquestioning obedience to authority…etc.

        There is a distinction between “belief” and “knowledge”,
        between ideals and principles.

        I am not being “chatty” here–I am giving you the raw meat of the matter.


      • “And what is that novel thing, is it you?”–DiaperAss

        Ta Panta Nous

        Goeth to the shallow waters to adjust thine garters.


  76. I hope we shall… crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country.”

    –Thomas Jefferson to George Logan, 1816.

    Now, look up Santa Clara v Southern Pacific RR; to find how Corporations were found to have “Personhood” in every and all aspects of living human beings, via the 14th amendment being applied spuriously by a clerk of the Supreme Court.


  77. In 1983, Admiral Moorer said, “”I’ve never seen a President — I don’t care who he is — stand up to
    them. It just boggles the mind. They always get what they want. The Israelis know what is going on
    all the time. I got to the point where I wasn’t writing anything down. If the American people
    understood what a grip these people have got on our government, they would RISE UP IN ARMS.
    Our citizens certainly don’t have any idea what goes on.”

    Remember, this is all of a whole, part of a giant puzzle
    Once you have enough peices in place you begin to see a picture..

  78. Truth is a radical idea to an indoctrinated mind.

    “There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword, the other is by
    – John Adams
    “All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise, not from
    defects in their Constitution or Confederation, not from want of honor or virtue, so much as
    from the downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation.”
    -John Adams

    “Israel controls the United States Senate. Around 80 percent are completely in support of Israel; anything
    Israel wants it gets. Jewish influence in the House of Representatives is even greater.”
    United States Senator William Fulbright

    “The technotronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be
    dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous
    surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal
    information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieve/review by the authorities.”
    Zbigniew Brzezinski, CFR member, founding member of the Trilateral Commission, National Security
    Advisor to Obama and five U.S. presidents

    To revamp Israel’s tattered image, New York public relations expert Edward Gottlieb retained novelist Leon
    Uris to write Exodus. Jewish Zionists have routinely proven themselves skilled storytellers and masterful

    Corporatism is simply the attack of one fictitious entity [the corporation] on another fictitious
    entity [the state].–William Whitten


  79. American military experts said the remaining forces are expected to stay in Iraq beyond 2011 as a ‘peacekeeping force’ for a decade, AFP reported.

    Last week, US President Barack Obama declared an end to Washington’s combat mission in the war-ravaged country.

    That there is an Orwellian disconnect here should be obvious to all but the zombified.

    “occupation” v “combat” v “peacekeeping”…meaningless Newspeak. It is all force by arms.

    What does it mean to be well adjusted in a psychotic society?


  80. In December 1948, Albert Einstein and 27 prominent Jews urged us “not to support this latest manifestation of fascism.” They warned that a “Leader State” was the goal of the “terrorist party” that has governed Israel over all but a handful of the past 62 years.

    My personal position is this; I cannot accept the assertion of a “God’s chosen people”. I find it irrational and absurd simply on grounds of reason. To my thinking any “controversy” of Zion is founded upon myth. This extends to any form of exceptionalism, racial or national. There are exceptional individuals throughout all of humanity. I am particularly suspicious of the claim of some special “genius of the Jews”, which is used to forward their extremist views. As far as the history of my own era, with the proven genesis of the modern state of “Israel” as one born of terrorism, I might grant the Jews as having a particular ‘genius’ in brutality and fanaticism—but this would be an emotional response on my part—and I only say it here as cynical jest.
    While I have no sympathy for fundamentalism in any religion, and certainly none with the present state of Islam, it is still a horrendous crime, what has happened in occupied Palestine. The modern state of Israel was born of terrorism, is maintained through terrorism, and will most certainly succumb to terrorism.


  81. Machiavelli:
    Leaving out of consideration those maxims of state which still furnish some European and eastern statesmen with principles of action, “The Prince” is bestrewn with truths that can be proved at every turn. Men are still the dupes of their simplicity and greed, as they were in the days of Alexander VI. The cloak of religion still conceals the vices which Machiavelli laid bare in the character of Ferdinand of Aragon. Men will not look at things as they really are, but as they wish them to be—and are ruined. In politics there are no perfectly safe courses; prudence consists in choosing the least dangerous ones. Then—to pass to a higher plane—Machiavelli reiterates that, although crimes may win an empire, they do not win glory. Necessary wars are just wars, and the arms of a nation are hallowed when it has no other resource but to fight.–Introduction to The Prince by W.K. Marriott


  82. “Most of his thoughts, his political ‘ammunition,’ as it were, was carefully manufactured for him in advance by the Council on Foreign Relations-One World Money Group.” ~ Curtis Dall, on his father in law FDR


  83. “Let us not speak falsely now, for the hour is getting late”.


  84. Os dois de você devem receber um quarto.

  85. And so it is Recce, after all of your indictments of my lack of substance, my “questionable sanity”, and your posing as the victim of empty rancor; is there nothing here your splendid and brilliant mind can dissemble to cast me back into your pit of disdain?

    You are perhaps aloof to all of this “silly conspiracy theory” and refuse to be lowered to my level of “angry discourse”?

    O’ where art though silver tongue my stalwart ‘Christian soldier ?


  86. “You have been told that you shall not kill, but I say unto you, you shall not be angry without a cause.”

    Without cause Recce……in you I see cause to be angry.

    Enough, get thee behind me.


  87. “Os dois de você devem receber um quarto.”

    I’m sorry Jack…?? Translation??


    • hybridrogue1, “Os dois de você devem receber um quarto” is Portuguese for what one could say in the vernacular as “the two of you get yourself a room.” Perhaps Jack thinks we’re quarreling like an old married couple. Ouch! ;-)

      • I was getting the same thoughts from your obvious fascination with your deluded conclusions to my sexual orientation.

        Is this enough? Are you finished?

        I have put a lot of information up here that could lead you to the light of the current architecture of political power. Pay some attention to that rather than sniffing at my behind. Because I’m out of here.


  88. Recce…I see you are sneaking about in the middle of the thread showing great concern for my sexual orientation, Lol

    We are down here, farther on–as if you hadn’t noticed.
    Yesterday at 9:38pm I made a comment that seems to have left you baffled, for you won’t approach but from behind{at 6:04am yester}like a thief.

  89. Recce1,

    Thus far, you have accused me, *in fact claim that I have admitted to*:

    Bring insane, an antisemite, an anti-Christian, a homosexual, an onanist, illogical, having no honor, being a coward, and having directed threats at you.

    Any careful reading of this thread will plainly show that all of these allegations are drawn from your own perverse imagination.

    Being that calling someone an “asshole” is a common colloquialism in this culture, it is a lunatic stretch of the imagination to translate that into a conviction that I have any interest at all in sex with other men.

    I have also made it quite clear that I have nothing against Jesus, but am enraged at apostate phony Zionist christianoid warmongers such as yourself.
    Those of you who have embraced the teachings of the Pharisees and their hateful Talmud. Those such as yourself who “support the Jewish state of Israel”, a ‘state’ born of terrorism, maintained by terrorism, and surely self destruct by terrorism.

    You call me out on my use of the Anglo-Saxon, while you use serious invective and spurious indictments.
    And now you hang back sullen like Judas, mumbling cheap shots far back on the path of this thread.

    I think it should be quite clear to a candid reading of this thread that it is you who are projecting your own twisted misgivings here.

    You have not made one comment that is not an attack veiled as a defense, since I obliterated your silly assertions as to your anti- history of the Ashkenazim Khazars. The rest has been the pitiful whines and barks of a perpetual victim directed at my person—not my argument.

    So, in the street language colloquialism in which it is meant, I again pronounce you an utter asshole.



  90. So now you’re quoting Scripture despite being an atheist or agnostic? To what end; do you want to become a believer? Or do you believe me to be Satan, or at least your personal demon?

    But if you’re angry with me, does that mean you see cause to want to kill me? I take it that you don’t understand or don’t want to understand that the word “kill” in that Scriptural reference can be better interpreted as to mean murder. Or am I misinterpreting your meaning? I certainly wouldn’t want to do that, it makes you angry, maybe homicidally so.

    You took me to task for editing your statement in posting “I know there can be no proof–because I’ve seen enough proof …” and saying it was nonsensical but leaving out “because I’ve seen enough proof that it was an inside job by western intel,” despite the use of “…” which denotes more to the sentence a reader could have seen above but which added nothing to make your comment more meaningful other than your belief that because you’ve allegedly seen “proof” that makes the issue settled and anyone who disagreed with you was an idiot. Yet you misquote the Scriptures badly. Matthew 5:21-22 says in the NKJV “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.’ But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment,” not “You have been told that you shall not kill, but I say unto you, you shall not be angry without a cause.” Your quote and that of the Scriptures have two different connotations.

    However, I’ve never implied I wanted to harm you and haven’t said I was angry with you, unless you took my saying I would pray for you as anger ( I didn’t say I’d pray at you), but I do understand intolerant progressive have a problem, or “cause” to be angry, very angry, with those that don’t acquiesce to their “superior’ knowledge. However, you called me a Christian soldier and I’m both a Christian and a soldier, albeit retired military. Now you even imply I’m like a thief. I guess you were running out of aspersions.

    In any event, your post is just more proof of your mental aberrations.


    This is a technique that we see on the Internet, in chatrooms and blog comment threads such as this one.
    It is an official corporate government program involving ‘shills’ or ‘outside contractors to join in conversations such as these with the express purpose of disjointing the cognative stream.

    Sunstein co-authored a 2008 paper with Adrian Vermeule, titled Conspiracy Theories, in which they wrote, ”The existence of both domestic and foreign conspiracy theories, we suggest, is no trivial matter, posing real risks to the government’s antiterrorism policies, whatever the latter may be.” 

    Sunstein and Vermeule argue that the practice of enlisting non-government officials, ”might ensure that credible independent experts offer the rebuttal, rather than government officials themselves. There is a tradeoff between credibility and control, however. The price of credibility is that government cannot be seen to control the independent experts.”
    Shortly after taking office on January 20, 2009 President Obama appointed Harvard law professor (and personal friend) Cass Sunstein to the post of administrator of the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs.

    In June 2009 Sunstein published an essay in The Journal of Political Philosophy entitled “Conspiracy Theories: Causes and Cures,” in which he provided an “analysis” of conspiracy theories, viewing them, as his title indicated, as “caused” by psychological conditions and requiring “cures”, i.e., elimination. The article led to an outcry by civil libertarians of all political stripes, who especially singled out for protest Sunstein’s call for covert “cognitive infiltration” by government agents of organizations the government deems “conspiracist”. 

    Griffin demonstrates that Sunstein is *completely unable to refute the major positions of the 9/11 truth movement, and doesn’t actually even try to do so.* Instead, Sunstein has produced a pseudo-scholarly fake “analysis” as a basis for a call for the government to infiltrate and neutralize the movement through activities which create “cognitive dissonance,” clearly not the least bit different from the FBI’s Cointelpro operations. But in so doing Sunstein has provided Griffin the means to demonstrate yet again that defenders of the official account of 9/11 actually cannot proceed by using reason and fact.

    They are forced to resort to disinformation, suppression of evidence, lies, illogic, threats and intimidation, always with the same result: failure. The more people study the events of 9/11 the more certain they become that the government and its media outlets are lying.
    Sunstein’s essay appears to reveal that the government response to its ongoing failure will be to resort to illegal activities directed against people who are speaking out about the highest crimes carried out in the corridors of power.

    The remarkably inept manner in which he makes his case suggests, however, that providing a rationale for such a future policy may not have been his real intention. Rather, it seems plausible that his purpose is to suggest that such actions have not even been considered before, let alone implemented, when in fact such operations have been ongoing since 9/11.
    Griffin’s COGNITIVE INFILTRATION is a lucid and compelling exposure of the contempt held by the official defenders the 9/11 myth for dissenters who have seen through their Big Lie.


    • hybridrogue1, so now I’m a shill? So much for your psycho babbling. In any event my dear friend I’ve seen far more contempt spewed on forums in the form of innuendoes, acerbic rhetoric, name calling, and ad hominem attacks by “Truthers” than those who reject the “Bush/Cheney/Zionists Did It” conspiracy theory. But at least you have Ahmadinejad on your side. Or is it you’re a shill for him?

      By the way, how many fighters sat “alert” around any major city including DC pre 9/11? Of the few that did, and there were several fighters, what and where was their tasking?

      • “The White House said it hoped to encourage debate in Iran on the speech. “We will, to amplify the president’s messages, … be blogging it, Tweeting it, posting on Youtube and, again, ensuring that we are doing everything that we can to disseminate the president’s words,” an administration official said.”

        So Recce, I see you have been called back into action as a mighty rhetorical stormtrooper for this vile police state…”blogging it,” as it says above.

        This is a perfect extension of the notes by Sunstein–YES, I think you are a bleeding shill…WTF? ‘All the hallmarks’, as they say.

        And to tip your hand so quickly with this Ahmadinejad remark. It’s called “telegraphing your punch” in martial arts.

        This system promotes the false concept of “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”.

        There is no just excuse to charge free thinkers with the same nonsense., this is your bullhit game not mine.

        This applies to Ahmadinejad, as Obama’s enemy. Agreeing with the Iranian on certain points is not to embrace him as our ‘friend’…but to agree with those points. It is only the simpleton bullshit thinking of TV minds that fall for this kind of specious crap.

        You say; “Truthers” than those who reject the “Bush/Cheney/Zionists Did It” conspiracy theory. But at least you have Ahmadinejad on your side. Or is it you’re a shill for him?”

        What a pathetic attempt at argument. It’s like “I know you are but what am I?”
        But this is the same level of juvenile bullshit that you started out with way back when.

        And now your going to start quizing me with “technical” 9/11 questions??

        You have a box of dull blades you are trying to work with. It’s astonishing, you are so bad at this.

      • “By the way, how many fighters sat “alert” around any major city including DC pre 9/11? Of the few that did, and there were several fighters, what and where was their tasking?”

        It has been asserted that there may have been as few as four responders for that area that morning. This is an claim by a commander who should know–but what does that mean when we know that the military only tells the public what it wants them to think at the moment. Even Hamilton and Kean made this point directly.
        The fact to be aware of is this baldfaced lying by the military, the intelligence services, the administrations, and the lying shill packed Congress.
        Anyone who believes the ‘official story’ on ANYTHING from this criminal cabal is an idiot.

      • hybridrogue1, on what basis do you assume that the statement that there were only about four aircraft available is a lie? Is it that you automatically assume anything a government person says is a lie? Have you ever seen the aircraft or the bases? I have.

        It’s been decades since we have had armed fighters sitting alert in the CONUS until after 9/11. The four aircraft near DC were for protecting AF1. The exact number and location are classified for reasons conspiracy advocates wouldn’t understand. Launching them other than to protect AF1 couldn’t be made by the local area commander. Now I do think in light of 9/11 the number of aircraft available to launch and command and control was a problem. Many of the same problems contributed the the USS Pueblo and USS Liberty incidents.

        In Alaska we had some of the same problem and once a Soviet Bear Recon bomber penetrated US airspace. Fortunately there was an RC-135 in the area and it intercepted the bomber and escorted it out. We kidded that our plane was then an FC-135.

        By the way, fighters, and recon birds, need not shoot down an aircraft to force it down.

      • Well then Recce as a veteran military you should understand full well the chain of command and THE NEED TO KNOW.
        If you can’t conceive of this medium is a perfect breeding ground for intrigue, then you lack in vital imagination.
        If you haven’t looked into Pilots for 9/11 Truth, then you don’t understand the complexity of the military attempting to use the excuse of incompetence, or unfortunate starting situations, is an utter and complete absurdity.
        I know many ex-military, it is a rare exception to know one that isn’t still subject to the conditioning and brainwashing that is part of the military hierarchy.

      • “Is it that you automatically assume anything a government person says is a lie?”–Reece

        Yes, it is government policy flat out and simple.
        It is their profile and MO. It is the first assumption until proven otherwise. It is rarely proven otherwise.
        And if you haven’t noticed that then, as I have said before, you’re an automaton, a programmed TVZombie.

      • hybridrogue1, ah yes, how simplistic it is to say all ex military are brainwashed. End of argument. It’s like saying anyone who opposes Obama is a racist. End of argument. But its the arguments of cowards my seemingly leftist friend.

  92. There is also the open and acknowledged US Military high strategy of Full Spectrum Dominance, that is a parallel support beam for this structure.
    Some of the papers from the war colleges have been just as blatant and forthcoming with the truest deepest armatures forming the base of the Panoptic Maximum Security State.
    I have kept files of dialog from my debates on the 9/11 subject, mostly from Amazon politics forum. I found that there were disinformation agents, that they work in teams {and will often “dog pack”}, team leaders are often very good {one, an engineer, obviously knowledgeable–but equally obviously cheating rhetorically}. Some are used as nagging irritants for hit and run, “tin hat” comments.
    Obvious planning as to these tactics via gaming theory and software.
    But no matter how well they play the game, the truth trumps, and often by teaching the “game” back to them, like grading their performance. This entails showing how their illogic is hanging out. This is ultimately a winning case, because truth has it’s own game, it is masterful because it is real.


    • In one of Buckminster Fuller’s books, he warned that the Dark Age will be full of disinfo.

  93. Tangle,

    Yes, that may have been in his book, CRITICAL PATH.

    a brilliant read.

    Indeed, we have entered a new dark age.


  94. Ha…by the way Tangle, I’m for ’76 with you.

    The ‘Declaration’ is my guide.

    Peace through Liberty and Justice.


    • hybridrogue1, in this you’re right. Patriots need to restore the USSA (no typo) to a democratic Republic under the rule of Constitutional Law. In order to do so citizens should demand a Constitutional Convention, as Congress will never give up its power willingly, and force our federal leaders to comply with the Constitution thru restraining amendments, especially a reiteration of the 2nd, 9th, and 10th Amendments.

      To do so we may need as you imply to dust off the Declaration of Independence and take it to heart with a vengeance keeping in mind the reason Jefferson, Madison, and Justice Story said the 2nd Amendment was written.

      As Justice Story wrote, “In the next place, the state governments are, by the very theory of the constitution, essential constituent parts of the general government. They can exist without the latter, but the latter cannot exist without them.” – Justice Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution, 1833

      Again Justice Story wrote in his Commentaries on the Constitution of the US, “The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of the republic; since it offers a strong moral check against usurpation and arbitrary power of the rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them.” – Justice Joseph Story, appointed to the supreme Court by Constitution’s principal author, James Madison.

      • For a lack of emotional connection you sure have lost it hybridrogue1, and quite frankly, that was my objective, to show to others that mean spirited demagogues like you are mentally unstable and completely out of touch with reality. You’re no American patriot concerned about the Republic or constitutional law, but rather you’re an intolerant anti-semitic and likely racist bigot and most likely a far left progressive.

        No doubt you’ve never served and maybe like the Westboro Baptists hate American service men and women. If you had faced a draft you’d be the type to run and hide in Canada.

        More than ever I believe you to be not merely a Chamberlain, but a Quisling. So go ahead an spew your bile. Sieg Heil Comrade.

      • This is all so.

        And yet, there’s nothing you can do
        to bring you closer to me.


      • hybridrogue1, in order to get closer to you I assume I would have to hate Jews, believe Bush or the Massad was behind 9/11, reject the idea that Islam is an aggressive intolerant religious/political/military worldview, and that the US is a Roman/Soviet style evil empire.

        Sorry, but I don’t accept those views.

      • “Sorry, but I don’t accept those views.”

        You don’t accept “those views”, your “assumption” again that I “hate Jews”, being baseless and unnecessary as a base for the following points made.

        You are a ridiculous person Reece.

        The known facts and evendence proves beyond a reasonalbe doubt That 9/11 was a systemic Psyop perpetrated by Western Intelligence to establish an in your face panoptic police state domestically, and expand the empire abroad.

        Whatever your pretenses for miscomprehending this and collaborating with such a vile system is your own problem.
        My personal opinion of you is that you are a traitor to the very principals you claim to embrace, a hypocrit and a fool.

      • And once again hybridrogue1 you prove you’re a petulant puerile child with a deep seated hatred and intolerance for those who don’t agree with you. You’d make a fine ally of militant Muslims and far left ideologues. Maybe you’re an apologist or Quisling for them.

        I still remember about the people who said I have Negro friends but were the worst kind of racists. The same goes for you and your attitude towards Jews. I’ll even bet you believe they’re not caucasian.

        But at the very least from your perspective I guess I art least got three out of four of your views right. So go ahead with the childish name-calling by immature friend. It doesn’t help your positions.

      • “You’d make a fine ally of militant Muslims and far left ideologues. Maybe you’re an apologist or Quisling for them.”–Recce

        You’re the fucking militant soldier boy. I told you in no uncertain terms before that I don’t have enough emotional connection to any of this to hate anybody, merely assessing attitudes and thought possesses.

        I have also told you up front I think your are an asshole. So you know up front that we have no “argument”. I am just saying that I think you are an idiot asshole.

        So what, your some turd on my monitor. Big deal. So why don’t you just fuck off instead of trying to keep up a conversation with someone who sees you as nothing but a jerk?
        I’ve had enough of your crap.
        Go ahead and keep up your squall here. Have the last say. It is meaningless drivel.

  95. Once again divide and conquer is working according to their divine plan isn’t it, kids? The “mosque” IS a total distraction.

    Who the hell cares about a mosque being built when every single day more amerikans are losing their jobs, houses and life savings?

    Who the hell cares about a mosque when as someone else here mentioned the gulf and in the end, the entire world is being poisoned?

    Who the hell cares about a mosque when corporate criminals like Monsanto have taken over our food supply and big pharma wants to vaccinate us to death..literally?

    Who the hell cares about a mosque when we know that 9/11 was an inside job and 19 hijackers with box cutters bringing the entire U.S. defense system to it’s knees is the most ridiculous story/lie ever told?

    Who the hell cares about a mosque when the real perpetrators of 9/11 had already planned to use the murder of 3000 Americans as their pretext to ensnare us in the steel net of a police state? Any of you haters ever read PNAC?

    Those of you upset about a mosque (which isn’t even a freaking mosque) need to wake the hell up to what is REALLY IMPORTANT and meaningful to your life.

    The mosque thing is a tool used to stir up more hatred and support for a war with Iran and further invasions in the middle east by our imperialistic military. It doesn’t have a thing to do with anyone’s “freedoms”. How can some of you be so blind as to not see it? Talk about tools…sheesh

  96. Yea Jersey, spot on.

    “Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain,” says the all powerful OZ. Ha ha ha….Toto knows, COTO knows.

    9/11 was the day steel-framed buildings fell like sandcastles, the law of physics worked in reverse and the United States Air Force went missing in action. So what is the real story?

    Well anyone with alick of sense knows it was an inside job.


  97. http://alethonews.wordpress.com/2010/09/08/u-s-government-lies-about-molten-steel-found-at-ground-zero-after-911/#respond

    ****The government’s hot dog flavored water…


  98. theres no god in heaven so get off your knees, to quote Ryan Dawson “fuck zionism and have a nice day”

  99. The most recent activities of our favorite Zionist Beast;

    With bulldozers and all the materials they won’t let into whatever is left of Palestine; like stock car racers at the Daytona 500, or some kind of Oklahoma Land Rush, champing at the bit to destroy what’s already there and then build what isn’t.

    Why is this particular piece of business, among all the other conditions that might be important, always coming up, like it’s the only thing anyone should pay attention to? It is because the Nazi’s own the media. You may not have heard but the Nazi’s actually won World War 2, just like the British actually won the American Revolution. Your pants are on backwards but you don’t know it and the usual psychopathic, take no prisoners, fountain pen killers are making life a wasteland; while they feed on your flesh and your being as you support them in their purposes.

    Israel is maintained as the world’s most important concern, while everything else gets lost in transition and translation or turned into baggage that you carry for them. You’re in the suitcase and you are the monkey and they think it’s pretty funny because the punch line is a punch and guess who screams first?
    Les Visible

  100. All values, even the freedom of expression, in Europe and in the United States are being sacrificed at the altar of Zionism.

    “a cheat and a fraud. It stands as a series of evasive maneuvers that infantilize the audience, transform candor into iniquity, and conceal realities that demand immediate inspection and confrontation.”–Harper’s magazine

    The 9/11 Commissioners themselves reported the obstruction of their mandate by the C.I.A., in a New York Times editorial:

    “What we do know is that government officials decided not to inform a lawfully constituted body, created by Congress and the president, to investigate one the greatest tragedies to confront this country. We call that obstruction.”

    I think the verdict is in on 9/11. Only those who chose to be willfully ignorant by this late date can accept the official myth. Such endorsement indicts these collaborators as well as the principle perpetrators. “I didn’t know” is acknowledged as unacceptable in a court of law, wherein there is a reasonable expectation of discovery on the subject’s part. The question of whether it is reasonable that they did not know, hinges upon rational argument.

    Part of this rational argument is whether it is reasonable to suggest that a person can be unaware that there is a controversy. It takes a great stretch of credulity to accept this as true in a general sense. Such issues are addressed at length in the discussions and judgments at Nuremberg.
    That these are generally the same portion of society that seems oblivious to the police state, so blatantly out of the closet now.
    According to international law, a large portion of this nation’s population are liable to charges of being willing accomplices to crimes against humanity, and war crimes. This is serious, as far as reason in law applies.

    The words of Archbishop Desmond Tutu offer moral direction for this dilemma: “If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor.”

    I choose full spectrum defiance to the oppressor.
    Defiance is defense, not aggression, the two words are etymologically embraced.

  101. This uncanny disconnect between the public mind and the public media stirs chilling intimations of invisible top-down mind control.

    It creates a fractured dream in which the allowed reality denies the actuality of public opinion.

    The universal failure of the media to report the new 9/11 evidence can only result from a “deep politics” imposition of a news blackout that will, while allowing life on the surface to seem normal and sustainable, place democracy in critical danger and make the inevitable reckoning worse.

    A police state waiting in the wings…

    “There is nothing so strong or safe in an emergency of life as the simple truth.” –Charles Dickens
    “The truth comes as conqueror only because we have lost the art of receiving it as guest.”–Rabindranath Tagore
    George Seldes once said, “Journalism’s job is not impartial ‘balanced’ reporting. Journalism’s job is to tell the people what is really going on.”

    “Sunstein has provided Griffin the means to demonstrate yet again that defenders of the official account of 9/11 actually cannot proceed by using reason and fact. They are forced to resort to disinformation, suppression of evidence, lies, illogic, threats and intimidation, always with the same result: failure.”

    We also stand under a big beam about to fall on our heads–there is a rush to a police state crackdown moving on [FFWD>>] at this very moment, and much of this has to do with the recognition that their propaganda system has ruptured, and this having to do with the system going with hubris several steps too far.

  102. Consumers of corporate news media—especially those whose understandings are framed primarily from that medium alone—are embedded in a state of excited delirium of knowinglessness.

    “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” –George Orwell

    This deep psychotic culture
    Where every bird’s a vulture
    And every talking head is soaked in turpentine

    Juicy loose and soupy
    And hoochie coochi sushi
    O’she’such an open hearted Valentine

    Go ahead and rinkydink me
    Flood and try to sink me
    I’m from the outer limits, I AM the outer limit
    We are playing on my time and the tune is mine
    So sell the cobra roaster the Alabama toaster the hot goddamit boaster
    Just take the roller coaster to the county line
    When we have no more to say here that’ll be the day here you will hear the bloody engines whine



    U.S. should be able to shut Internet, former CIA chief says –U.S. military has new Cyber Command to begin operations 1 October 26 Sep 2010 Cyberterrorism is such a threat that the U.S. president should have the authority to shut down the Internet in the event of an attack, Former CIA Director Michael Hayden said. Hayden made the comments during a visit to San Antonio where he was meeting with military and civilian officials to discuss cyber security. Hayden said the president currently does not have the authority to shut down the Internet in an emergency. [Yes, ’emergencies’ such as exposing and resisting inevitable false flags, phony pandemics, and inside terror jobs.]

    U.S. Is Working to Ease Wiretapping on the Internet –Mandate would include ability to intercept and unscramble encrypted messages 27 Sep 2010 Federal law enforcement and national security officials are preparing to seek sweeping new regulations for the Internet, arguing that their ability to wiretap criminal and terrorism suspects is “going dark” as people increasingly communicate online instead of by telephone. Officials want Congress to require all services that enable communications — including encrypted e-mail transmitters like BlackBerry, social networking Web sites like Facebook and software that allows direct “peer to peer” messaging like Skype — to be technically capable of complying if served with a wiretap order.

    Money transfers could face anti-terrorism scrutiny –The new rule would require banks to disclose even the smallest transfers. 27 Sep 2010 The Obama administration wants to require U.S. banks to report all electronic money transfers into and out of the country, a dramatic expansion in efforts to counter terrorist financing and money laundering. Officials say the information would help them spot the sort of transfers that helped finance the ‘al-Qaeda hijackers’ who carried out the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

    Censorship of the Internet Takes Center Stage in “Online Infringement” Bill By Richard Esguerra 21 Sep 2010 Senator Patrick Leahy yesterday introduced the “Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act” (COICA). This flawed bill would allow the Attorney General and the Department of Justice to break the Internet one domain at a time — by requiring domain registrars/registries, ISPs, DNS providers, and others to block Internet users from reaching certain websites. The bill would also create two Internet blacklists. The first is a list of all the websites hit with a censorship court order from the Attorney General. The second, more worrying, blacklist is a list of domain names that the Department of Justice determines — without judicial review — are “dedicated to infringing activities.”

    CIA seeks to gag critics of terror hit list 27 Sep 2010 The Obama Administration is trying to use national security laws to pre-empt an embarrassing court case over its targeted assassinations of terror suspects. In papers filed over the weekend Leon Panetta, the head of the CIA, argued that American security would be breached if the lawsuit was heard in court. “This case cannot be litigated without risking or requiring the disclosure of classified and privileged intelligence information that must not be disclosed,” he wrote.
    Obama invokes ‘state secrets’ claim to dismiss suit against assassinating U.S. citizens 25 Sep 2010 The Obama administration urged a federal judge early Saturday to dismiss a lawsuit over its targeting of a U.S. citizen for killing overseas, saying that the case would reveal state secrets. The U.S.-born citizen, Anwar al-Aulaqi, is a cleric now believed to be in Yemen… Civil liberties groups sued the U.S. government on behalf of Aulaqi’s father, arguing that the CIA and the Joint Special Operations Command’s placement of Aulaqi on a capture-or-kill list of suspected terrorists — outside a war zone and absent an imminent threat — amounted to an extrajudicial execution order against a U.S. citizen.
    Pentagon destroyed 10,000 copies of army officer’s book 26 Sep 2010 The Pentagon has admitted buying up and destroying 10,000 copies of an insider’s account of life in Afghanistan by an army intelligence officer. It said that the book, Operation Dark Heart by Lt Col Anthony Shaffer, threatened to divulge state secrets. Lt Col Shaffer, a bronze star recipient, said he had no intention of jeopardising American lives or damaging national security. “The whole premise smacks of retaliation,” he told CNN. “Someone buying 10,000 books to suppress a story in this digital age is ludicrous.” [Hey, can some country please do an ‘Operation Iraqi Freedom’-style rescue in the US, and liberate us from these a**wipes? –LRP]

    • And we thought Bush’s attempts at illegal wiretapping were bad? This will be a complete repudiation of the Fourth Amendment. The Fifth is already dead due to the Kelo Decision. Hell, the only amendment not violated is the Third — so far. The president also claims the right to have American citizens assassinated without a trial? Who says it would even be limited to those overseas aiding terrorist organizations outside of actual combat even though that too is unconstitutional. The government even denied Alwaki’s family even from having a lawyer represent him.

      The States must call for a Constitutional Convention and put the President and Congress back in their proper places. That or we should dust of the Declaration.

  104. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/26/iran-stuxnet-worm-nuclear

    **Experts at Iran’s nuclear agency are trying to disable a complex computer virus that has attacked the country’s industrial sites and appears to be aimed at shutting down its Bushehr nuclear plant, which was due to go online next month.

    According to the semi-official ISNA news agency, officials at Iran’s nuclear agency have met to determine how to combat the computer worm, called Stuxnet, which can take over systems that control the inner workings of industrial plants.**

    In my view, Stuxnet was created by western intelligence; and there is a dual purpose for this attack at this particular moment in time.
    The primary target is not Iran, that is secondary. The actual prime target is the US public as this very type of “attack” is an excuse for all of the new draconian Internet laws that have suddenly been brought up front in our faces.
    This “weapon” is a weapon of fear mongering, another state manufactured bogyman. Those who created this weapon already have the defense as part of the design. All poisons are co-designed with antidotes. It would be absurd to do otherwise.

    Stuxnet is a covert , ground hugging attack on our freedom of communication by the criminal syndicate posing as “the US Government”.

    This type of conceptualization is beyond the “Recce” types of the world. It is from the field of Imagineering where a category of special mental aptitudes exist. This is the realm of fine artistry, both visual and literary. People such as Recce fail to comprehend that the world is designed by artists. It has ALWAYS been designed by artist from the time we were first human. “Tools” are designed. Dwellings are designed. Societies are designed. Nothing manufactured by man is excluded—ALL is artifact.

    The best tactic and intrigue is designed by artists. Intelligence agencies LEARN from spy novelists, and the best agents ARE spy novelists. It is also true in the sciences; science fiction preceding and inspiring the evolution of science. Art mimics life, life mimics art, this is the sequence of technological progression.

    For those who naïvely believe that imagination is primarily concerned with ‘fantasy’ are gravely ignorant.
    Imagination is primarily concerned with creation, and revelation by celebration of creation.

    The Muse will lead to Wisdom if faithfully followed.
    Mammon will lead to failure if faithfully followed.
    The muse counsels for deep observation.
    Mammon counsels to look away.
    The Muse counsels to create.
    Mammon counsels to destroy.
    The Muse counsels to give.
    Mammon counsels to take.

    An Imagineer knows this instinctively

    • hybridrogue1, here’s a quote by Alexander Hamilton I think we will both agree upon:

      “The instrument by which [government] must act are either the AUTHORITY of the laws or FORCE. If the first be destroyed, the last must be substituted; and where this becomes the ordinary instrument of government there is an end to liberty! ”

      Is Cass Sunstein’s concept of “nudging” force?

      By the way, with regard to Obama’s “suggestions” about the internet and forcing software companies to create backdoors I forgot to mention that even some former Bush appointees are supporting the idea.

      Also, what’s to prevent foreign powers from finding the backdoors and exploiting them? What’s to prevent US government politicians from hacking rival politicians files to get dirt on them come election times?

      And what of the recent appellate court ruling that citizens have no expectancy of privacy about their vehicles or cell phones so the government need not get warrants to place GPS trackers in them?

  105. hybridrogue1, I was conceptualizing such programs and attacks which had more than one obvious purpose probably before you were out of high school, if you ever made it out. That’s why I was once in the Libertarian Party until it went over the edge. But thanks for the gratuitous ad hominem attack. It proves you childishness.

    By the way, have you given away your mammon? Another thing, dreamers come before artists.

  106. Inns of Court at Crown Temple, which are physically located at Chancery Lane behind Fleet Street in London. Although they vehemently deny it, all Bar Associations in the U.S., such as the American Bar Association, the Florida Bar, or California Bar Association, are franchises to the Crown.

    The Inns of Court (see below, The Four Inns of Court) to the Crown Temple use the Banking and Judicial system of the City of London – a sovereign and independent territory which is not a part of Great Britain (just as Washington City, as DC was called in the 1800s, is not a part of the north American states, nor is it a state) to defraud, coerce, and manipulate the American people. These Fleet Street bankers and lawyers are committing crimes in America under the guise and color of law (see definitions for legal and lawful below). They are known collectively as the “Crown.” Their lawyers are actually Templar Bar Attorneys, not lawyers.

    CODE n. 1 [C;U] a way of hiding the true meaning of communications from all except those people who have the keys to understand it. 2 [C] a written set of rules of behavior. 3 [C] a formal group of principles or laws. -v. coded, coding, codes to put into code, (syn.) to encode. ENCODE v. 1 to change written material into secret symbols. -Newbury House Dictionary ©1999.

    COLONY, n. 1. A company [i.e. legal corporation] or body of people transplanted from their mother country to a remote province or country to cultivate and inhabit it, and remaining subject to the jurisdiction of the parent state; as *the British colonies in America *or the Indies; the Spanish colonies in South America. -Webster’s *1828* Dictionary.

    {Note the fact that the American colonies are still under Crown jurisdiction according to Webster’s as late as 1828}

    You have entered and are now living within the New World Order.It’s all over but the screaming. Your only hope is to slay the beast.



    I was one of Lisa’s constitutional advisors for this article.

    She makes several mistakes, including the silly notion that “of” and “for” are of lawful consequence. However, the use of CAPITAL letters does have consequence in ‘Legal CODE’.


    • hybridrogue1, you mention that the “use of CAPITAL letters does have consequence in ‘Legal CODE’.” It’s interesting to note that in the Constitution it refers to the supreme Court, not the Supreme Court.

      By the way, some have resisted summons by IRS courts claiming that documents with their names in all capital letters do not pertain to them as those are not their legal names.

  108. To clear up the nonsense about “For” and “Of”; simply turn to the ‘Oath’ of office, where it is clearly stated; …”of the United States”…

    Lisa had published her article before sending the finished version–or I would have pointed this error out to her.



    “It is the void that contradicts everything that is spoken even before the words are said;” wrote Merton, “the void that gets into the language of public and official declarations at the very moment when they are pronounced, and makes them ring dead with the hollowness of the abyss. It is the void out of which Eichmann drew the punctilious exactitude of his obedience…”

    “When we become more deeply human, as Merton understood the process,” says Douglas, “the wellspring of our compassion moves us to confront the Unspeakable.”

    “By overlooking the deep changes in Kennedy’s life and the forces behind his death, I contributed to a national climate of denial,” he writes. “Our collective denial to the obvious, in the setting up of Oswald and his transparent silencing by Ruby, made possible the Dallas cover-up. The success of the cover-up was the indispensable foundation for the subsequent murders of Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, and Robert Kennedy by the same forces at work in our government – and in ourselves. Hope for change in the world was targeted and killed four times over. The cover-up of all four murders, each leading into the next, was based, first of all, on denial – not the government’s but our own. The unspeakable is not far away.”

    “The unspeakable is not far away. It is not somewhere out there, identical with a government that became foreign to us. The emptiness of the void, the vacuum of responsibility and compassion, is in ourselves. Our citizen denial provides the ground for the government’s doctrine of ‘plausible deniability.’ John Kennedy’s assassination is rooted in our denial of our nation’s crimes in World War II that began the Cold War and the nuclear arms race…By avoiding our responsibility for the escalating crimes of state done for our security, we who failed to confront the Unspeakable opened the door to JFK’s assassination and its cover-up. The Unspeakable is not far away.”


  110. Now, the problem that we are dealing with here is that there is a certain someone, who does not comprehend who he is dealing with; in myself nor the true enemy at hand.
    That he unwittingly {or not} plays the part of the agent for that enemy, is the most unfortunate aspect of our culture.

    • Just who are we dealing with comrade Herr hybridrogue1? And why are you so abashed of identifying who you’re referring to? Or could is be your elitism again compelling you to show disdain towards your “lessors”?

  111. http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE68P1C920100926

    “Jewish settlers claim biblical birthright to land
    (Reuters) – Jewish settler Avraham Binyamin says any Israeli withdrawal from occupied land would be like severing a limb from his body.
    As one of some 300,000 Israelis living in enclaves built on West Bank land that Palestinians seek for a state, Binyamin expresses a view held by many that the area is a Jewish biblical birthright and must never be relinquished, not even for peace.
    “We, as Jews, believe that the land of Israel belongs to the people of Israel because a divine promise was given to us. The Bible is our legal document,” says Binyamin, who serves as a spokesman for Yitzhar, which rarely opens up for the media.”

    That such blithering fucking lunacy can be accepted by anyone is a proof of mass insanity; for Israel as a whole exists on this same psychotic premise?
    Zionism is utter phantasmagoria, mythological nonsense.

  112. An informative blog

  113. Former Dutch MP and extreme enemy of Islam, Ayaan Hirsi Ali was forced to leave Netherlands and resigns from the parliament because of her indirect involvement in making of a film criticizing Islam. The maker of this film was also duly punished by heroes of Islam. Now Ayaan Hirsi Ali is living almost hidden life in United States because of the serious crime and sin she committed by becoming a party in the anti-Islamic film. The entire episode will hopefully stand as a example of those enemies of Islam of the consequences of conspiring against this ever fastest growing religion in the world.

    Seeing the glorious rise of Islam in the world, particularly in the West, anti-Islamic forces and Judeo- Christian conspirators are relentlessly trying to defame Islam in multiple ways and means either by using the influential global media against Islam or hiring some agents in the Muslim and non-Muslim nations in spreading concocted propaganda against Islam. Though such agents of Judeo-Christian conspirators are mostly working secretly, some of such agents are showing the huge audacity of working almost openly in several countries, thus spreading venom against Islam in a planned way. Their initial strategy was using the name of Osama Bin Laden or Al Qaeda in actually hurting the image of Islam, which now has been even widened by their attack on Sharia law, Qur’an and even the Islam itself.

    The Judeo-Christian conspirators raise fingers at Muslim cultures like burqa or hizab and try to portray it as “tools of oppression” of women. They are trying to allure and indulge the Muslim nations towards nudity and sexual perversion. It promotes bad practices like live together, sex before marriage, extra marital sex and the culture of single mother in the Muslim nations. Prominent social philosophers compare today’s Western world as a “Huge Brothel”, where every woman either is raped or has sexual experience during very tinder age either through incest sex or school mates. Condom or even oral contraceptive vending machines are available in most of the educational institutions and campuses in the West. Ninety six percent of Western girls lose their virginity before reaching their 15th birthday. Numbers of fatherless child crosses almost a few thousand every year, while most of the married women in the West conceive child through extra-marital sexuality.

    Bangladesh is the third largest Muslim nation in the world with a total population of 156 million. It is the country, which hosts the second largest annual Islamic congregation in the world. Bangladeshis by nature are extremely devout and they have been unconditional defenders of Islam. The country has excellent relations with the Muslim Ummah and has shown the guts of standing in favor of oppressed people of Palestine and any other country, where Muslims are being persecuted or oppressed by enemies of Islam. But, with all such appreciable and glorious track record of a real Muslim nation, for past several years, an identified Zionist spy named Salah Uddin Shoaib Choudhury is continuing anti-Muslim and anti-Islam activities right from within Bangladesh through his anti-Islam publication named Weekly Blitz as well as by writing objectionable and nefarious articles against Islam, Muslims and the entire Ummah.

    This man is proved to be an Israeli spy and is trial in charges of blasphemy and sedition in Bangladeshi court since 2003, when his connections with Israel and Judeo-Christian conspirators were busted. Bangladeshi government was forced to free him on bail in 2005 at the pressure from various influential anti-Islamic quarters and individuals in the West.

    Weekly Blitz proclaiming to be “anti-Jihadist”, is in reality a publication against Islam and peace. It is continuing to hurt Muslim sentiments through articles, editorials and commentaries, mostly contributed by blasphemous writers belonging to Judeo-Christian syndicate, whose only agenda is to defame Islam and Muslims. This self-proclaimed Zionist newspaper regularly spreads venom against Islamic scholars like Dr. Zakir Naik as well as other Islamic political parties and fronts. It also openly denounces the existence of the State of Palestine and supports Israeli occupation and oppressions. Weekly Blitz openly opposes Tabligh Jamaat and even shows the extreme audacity of unduly connecting Muslim scholars, Islamic institutions and organizations as co-projects of Al Qaeda etc. It portrays Yasir Arafat, Mahmud Ahmedinejad, Ismail Haniya, Saddam Hussain and other Muslim heroes as “culprits”. This newspaper demands ban on Tabligh Jamaat and most of the Islamic dawah groups. Unjustly it puts imaginary blames on Tabligh Jamaat by linking it with Bali bombing in Indonesia or Muslims behind the questioned attack on Twin Towers , though it has already been exposed to the world that Israel and Bush administration jointly planned the attack on Twin Towers to gain political benefit.

    In recent months, the same Salah Uddin Shoaib Choudhury is continuing to publicize making of series of films against Islam. One of the first movies of this series named BLACK is already being filmed in Bangladesh . And, anti-Islamic groups are giving tremendous media coverage to this anti-Islam movie. One of such media outlets, expressing solidarity with this anti-Islam movie of Shoaib Choudhury is Washington Bangla Radio. This online radio station is continuing to broadcast interviews of people involved with this film with the objective of promoting BLACK to larger section of people in the world.

    In the published material Shoaib Choudhury says “This film is against Sharia, Islamism, religious intolerance, hate speech and repression of women under Sharia law. This film is aimed at creating massive awareness in the people in Muslim nations in standing against Islamism and Sharia, and voicing the need for reform in Islam, Koran and Islamic codes.

    “BLACK is the first film of the planned series of seven movies. Each of the movies is aimed at ultimately projecting problems inside Islam and Sharia law in a very bold manner.”

    Washington Bangla Radio (WBR) has already turned into an influential and effective platform of so-called secularists and anti-Islamists within the Bangla speaking community. It also has expanded its network within non Bengali communities through its English publications and contents. It is well understood that, WBR is a platform of Bangla speaking anti Islam groups in the West, whose agenda is not only to defame Islam but also to establish Indian hegemony over the South Asian nations as well as the world.

    Shoaib Choudhury’s multi-million dollar anti Islam movie BLACK has started openly publicizing its agenda of speaking against Sharia law, Qur’an, Islamic codes and Islam. It denounces Qur’anic laws and demands its reform.

    According to Islam, anyone denouncing Qur’anic codes and laws is considered to be an apostate and deserves punishment under Islamic laws. It is mandatory for every Muslim, who fears Allah and the life after death to stand and voice against any such elements in the society and wave Jihad. Silently witnessing activities of these apostates is unforgivable sin according to Qur’an.

    Apostate Shoaib Choudhury is taking the advantage of the current situation in Bangladesh , where an anti-Islam political party snatched power through questioned election in 2008. The ruling Bangladesh Awami League is continuing to implement anti-Islam agenda in the country through numerous repressive agendas against Islamic forces.

    World Muslim community needs to be aware of the continuous conspiracy of apostate Shoaib Choudhury against Islam. Bangladeshi government should be urged to ban making of BLACK and sending Shoaib back to prison for his anti-Islam agendas and activities.

    Enemies of Islam like Salman Rishdie, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Walid Shoebat etc are forced to live virtually like thieves by hiding in the West. Even in Pakistan , apostates like Salman Butt has been successfully eliminated and another apostate named Sherry Rehman has taken refuge behind heavy armed guards. Apostate Salah Uddin Shoaib Choudhury deserves similar consequences. Reluctance in confronting this man or watching his anti-Islam activities silently may encourage enemies of Islam in becoming more aggressive in their agendas.

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